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chrisd0729 08-21-2016 02:22 PM
Thoughts on an FFR car at $50k
 
What are thoughts on a home built FFR being worth $50k? This looks like a great build (received detailed build pics from seller) and cleanly finished however, based on recent conversations around factory built cars running 40-50k, I'm thinking its low-mid 40's. And that's before seeing/inspecting in person. Unless absolute pristine build with top of the line drive train and well known professional builders in the process, have you seen FFR builds go this high?
Thanks

Shelby Cobra Factory Five | eBay

mrmustang 08-21-2016 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisd0729 (Post 1401169)
What are thoughts on a home built FFR being worth $50k? This looks like a great build (received detailed build pics from seller) and cleanly finished however, based on recent conversations around factory built cars running 40-50k, I'm thinking its low-mid 40's. And that's before seeing/inspecting in person. Unless absolute pristine build with top of the line drive train and well known professional builders in the process, have you seen FFR builds go this high?
Thanks

Shelby Cobra Factory Five | eBay
I'm thinking at most a $30,000-$35,000 car, no heater (heated seats only work so far to warm your body), no wipers, no top, fake knock off wheels, no mention of an IRS rear end. I could see someone paying a builder 50K to build such a car (at a retail level), but for $50,000 on the secondary market, you can get a higher quality car such as a SPF, or ERA with all of the trimmings (and a 427 sideoiler if that is what you wanted) including an IRS. Or a fairly fresh, slightly used Backdraft with a hot small block and all of the other usual bells and whistles I mentioned above.


If it was my money, I'd be passing this one over at it's current price point.


Bill S.

jmimac351 08-21-2016 05:55 PM
C'mon Bill... nit picking maybe a little? Isn't a heater in a cobra kinda redundant? :D

-Native Floridian

1795 08-21-2016 07:27 PM
Depends on where you live and state regulations. In NY, you need a defroster to pass inspection. If you live in the north, a heater extends the driving season.

jmimac351 08-21-2016 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1795 (Post 1401220)
Depends on where you live and state regulations. In NY, you need a defroster to pass inspection. If you live in the north, a heater extends the driving season.
"Inspection?... Inspection?... C'mon man we talkin' 'bout Inspection.... This is Florida main... You talkin' 'bout Inspection... " :D

DanEC 08-22-2016 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jmimac351 (Post 1401199)
C'mon Bill... nit picking maybe a little? Isn't a heater in a cobra kinda redundant? :D

-Native Floridian
They work reasonably well with a top on. Of course with the top on your warm but also claustrophobic and paranoid in traffic at the same time.

Dwight 08-22-2016 06:43 AM
I drove my Cobra a lot at night in the summer and the defroster was a must. A change in the temperature when driving late in the day would cause condensation on the inside of my windshield.
I live in North Alabama and drove my Cobra to Ohio at night for several years for the London Cobra Show. A heater / defroster is necessary.


Dwight

Antny 08-22-2016 02:30 PM
Drove my Cobra in the pouring rain last evening (with the ragtop on, 'natch) and NEEDED the defroster. Worked the charm. So glad mine (SPF) has one....and a heater.

joyridin' 08-22-2016 03:57 PM
I live in Ohio and I have no heater/defroster or wipers. No problem driving as low as 35 degrees up to 95 degrees....at least with the windshield.

jhv48 08-22-2016 04:16 PM
Nicely done build. Warmed over SBF engine, middle of the road optioned.

Realistically should be priced around $40k and accept any offer close to that.

In order to be worth north of $40k, I would expect IRS, real pin drive wheels and an FE in the engine bay.

Just sayin!

twin turbo 08-22-2016 11:21 PM
It's interesting what some members find valuable. For instance, I wouldn't even want a pin drive car, others think it's a must have. I prefer an aftermarket (such as Dart) block, others want an original type factory block.

Back to the OP's question, I have seen a few F5's go for that much, but not with those components. I have seen some pretty crazy prices at used car dealerships, but they usually leave lots of room for negotiation in the price. Cheers.

patrickt 08-23-2016 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by twin turbo (Post 1401367)
It's interesting what some members find valuable. For instance, I wouldn't even want a pin drive car...
And why would that be?:confused:

lippy 08-27-2016 08:58 AM
I agree it's not anywhere near a $50k car. Nice car, but for $30k.

Rich A 08-27-2016 12:02 PM
it's missing a lot of things to make that FF a $50k car

patrickt 08-27-2016 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich A (Post 1401769)
it's missing a lot of things to make that FF a $50k car
... like a cash buyer. :cool:

twobjshelbys 08-27-2016 01:59 PM
Uh, excuse me, couldn't you build one for less?

RodKnock 08-27-2016 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jhv48 (Post 1401336)
Nicely done build. Warmed over SBF engine, middle of the road optioned.

Realistically should be priced around $40k and accept any offer close to that.

In order to be worth north of $40k, I would expect IRS, real pin drive wheels and an FE in the engine bay.

Just sayin!
I think you're accurate. A very nice car. $30,000-$35,000 seems too cheap to me. $45,000-$50,000 is searching for the ignorant buyer. Seller would be lucky to find someone to buy it for above $40K. A very good deal at $35,000. So, high $30's is probably where I think it should sell.

DanEC 08-28-2016 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1401384)
And why would that be?:confused:
Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.

patrickt 08-28-2016 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1401803)
Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.
I don't understand -- is there something wrong with the FFR pin-drives? As opposed to the six pin jobs on say, my ERA, RodKnock's Kirkham, etc.?

RodKnock 08-28-2016 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1401803)
Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.
I owned a '66 Corvette convertible for a very long time. I bought and installed the KO's, but they came loose often enough that I removed them and sold them. The Corvette KO manufacturers may have changed the wheels over the year, so I'm not familiar with today's product, but there's no comparison to the pin drive Trigo wheels on my Kirkham. While I don't drive thousands of miles every year, they've not come loose. They're as tight as the day I bought the car. And I have no fear of it either.


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