This is just for you, RodKnock....

[moore_rb]

Originally Posted by rodneym

I'm not a big fan of color coded wheels but Pat's wheels make for a nice color.

Agree!

The color of the center spokes looks more "magnesium-ish" in the after-pic.

Nicely done.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by moore_rb

Agree!

The color of the center spokes looks more "magnesium-ish" in the after-pic.

Nicely done.

From a distance, and with pad dust on them, they will pass for magnesium. The original color finish for Trigos basically just sucks.

[RodKnock]

Or look like this from CSX4323.

[patrickt]

Well, I never really intended to mimic the mag look. It just turned out that way a bit. Mostly, I just hated the original Trigo finish from day one.

[Phx Mike]

Get your spray can out Robert I am coming over with my Trigos! I have to agree that I think the magnesium look would be better than the standard finish. Especially on a Kirkham.

[patrickt]

For anyone interested, the technique I used, adhesion enhancers and all, begin on page four or so of this lengthy thread: Here You Go Chas. - The Finest Fluoroelastomer

[peterpjb]

i dont think it is very cool to create magnesium lookalike with coating or paint,

what is really cool are these black brown anodized (magnesium) wheels

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

i dont think it is very cool to create magnesium lookalike with coating or paint,

what is really cool are these black brown anodized (magnesium) wheels

Remember, all of these cars, and everything on them, are fake. Expensive, but still just fake little toys.

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Remember, all of these cars, and everything on them, are fake. Expensive, but still just fake little toys.

not necessarily ...

a magnesium wheel is a real magnesium wheel even when it is produced in 2017 and a magnesium lookalike coated wheel is a magnesium fake wheel even when it was produced in 1965..

the fact that most cars don't have a sixties vin isn't any excuse to fake anything on the cars...

just my 2¢

[moore_rb]

You're right. I'm wrong.

But I still like Patrick's wheels...

and, *poof*... unsubscribed.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by moore_rb

You're right. I'm wrong.

But I still like Patrick's wheels...

and, *poof*... unsubscribed.

That's nice. And I was just about to start a poll on folks who have curbed their magnesium wheels and set them on fire. Shoot, darn it. Eh, I'd probably get the same number of folks who flipped their Cobras over and their two roll bars saved both occupants.

[Phx Mike]

Relax Rodknock. I think a lot of us like the mag look in the pics you posted and in Patrick's wheels regardless of which is most authentic. But I gotta say I would not want real magnesium alloy wheels on a street car. Lighter by volume than aluminum and better strength to weight ratio than most aluminum alloys, but all the mag alloys I am aware of are relatively unstable (they corrode in air). Magnesium is usually a material of last resort in aerospace where weight is critical.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Phx Mike

Relax Rodknock. I think a lot of us like the mag look in the pics you posted and in Patrick's wheels regardless of which is most authentic. But I gotta say I would not want real magnesium alloy wheels on a street car. Lighter by volume than aluminum and better strength to weight ratio than most aluminum alloys, but all the mag alloys I am aware of are relatively unstable (they corrode in air). Magnesium is usually a material of last resort in aerospace where weight is critical.

You should reread the last couple pages because you obviously missed the original point of my post to Patrick. He said his repainted wheels kinda sorta looked like magnesium. As a joke, I posted a couple pics (one with the Dow7 gold look and one with the aged look) and said "no, here's a couple pics of the magnesium appearance." (paraphrased)

As for an actual magnesium Halibrand Cobra wheel, they coated them with Dow7 to protect them. I almost bought a set that had be sitting for a decade+ and they looked virtually new. Sure, the outer lip had some very minor pitting, but otherwise they were in near-new shape. And worse case scenario, you can polish them to remove the pitting. ERA Chas did it once a year and his wheels looked marvelous.

I know nothing about the aerospace industry and the use of magnesium, but we shouldn't be scaring off buyers of magnesium wheels for our Cobras. I'd buy a set, but they won't fit Kirkhams. And no one is curbing them on their Cobras and none of them have been in flames on any Cobras. They material makeup of the Halibrand wheel, and Fran Kress' repros, have changed over the last 50 years in several production runs.

[RodKnock]

Here's a recent thread from someone who helped a widow sell her husband's alloy-bodied Contemporary. Not only was the alloy body a one-off, but the Contemporary had real magnesium Halibrand wheels. They have to be AT LEAST 10-15-20-25 years old. How does this one wheel look? Looks in pretty good shape to me, not knowing which production run they came from.


Heres that thread:
Aluminium Bodied Contempoary

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Here's a recent thread from someone who helped a widow...

It is absolutely amazing how you can irritate so many people, so quickly, without even trying that hard.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

It is absolutely amazing how you can irritate so many people, so quickly, without even trying that hard.

OK then. My apologies. I agree with everyone.

Magnesium wheels suck. Don't buy them. They're very chemically unstable, they corrode quickly even with the coating and when the owner takes care of them and, when the Cobra owner runs them into a curb, which is a frequent occurrence, they burst into flames.

And Patrick's new wheel color looks gorgeous and even resembles a magnesium wheel.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by patrickt

It is absolutely amazing how you can irritate so many people, so quickly, without even trying that hard.

It has really been something special to see how this Bromance has unfolded over time.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Tim7139

It has really been something special to see how this Bromance has unfolded over time.

Yes and, over the years, I've learned to overlook his tendency to go passive/aggressive at the tail end of these threads.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Yes and, over the years, I've learned to overlook his tendency to go passive/aggressive at the tail end of these threads.

You're so predictable. I have an ulterior motive.

If I'm seen as the last defender of the magnesium Halibrand Cobra II wheel and give up and agree with everyone else that they're an awful choice and owners of these wheels should dump them on the market, then I'm hoping I'll make a "great deal" on them.

Because "we" never win anymore. And we're going to start winning again and keep winning until you're all sick and tired of winning.

Seriously, I have no idea why these wheels are worth $10,000 +/-. Magnesium Halibrands should be worth less than a comparable alloy wheel from Trigo due to their inferiority.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Yes and, over the years, I've learned to overlook his tendency to go passive/aggressive at the tail end of these threads.

Rod, passive/aggressive? Surely you jest?