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I am not sure where this should go but here is the story. I run two large (16 inch puller and pusher) fans on my coupes, drawing a lot of amps. You could really see on the volt meter when they kicked in. Add air and lights and fuel pumps and the amp draw at low RPM's is a lot. I was running a Generation One 140 amp alternator. I felt this was not enough at 1000 RPM idle. So, I called one of the major performance automotive supply houses and asked the question what was the output of their Private Label 150 Amp Generation 3 unit compared to their 240 Amp Gen 3 at 1000 RPM idle. The sales person did not know but gave me the phone number of the manufacturer of their private label units. I called them and we had an extensive conversation.
I asked about the private label units and how they compared to the manufacturer's units. The representative, I spoke to was up in the sales administration end of the company. I was told they manufacture the P/L units TO THE CUSTOMER's specs. Asking how did they differ from their units and was told that the supply houses P/L units had 8 diodes as the manufacturer's unit had 12 diodes for the same output. He said, there were other differences that help reduce the cost of the P/L units without going into detail. So, I went ahead and ordered a 150 AMP unit from the manufacturer. It came in with a QC tag attached which said, 148 amps output a 800 rpm and 176 amps at 1800 rpm. The manufacturer's units are rated at a minimum of 150 amps and 240 amps. While some of the auto supply houses are a max of 150 amps output not a minimum. I am quite satisfied with this Generation 3 unit and know at low rpm, I have all the amps I need for my electrical requirements. The only change to the system was the addition of a 200 amp fuse out of the alternator to protect the system. One thing, these units are not stocked but built to order, check them out on the internet at mechman.com.

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I don't have the charts in front of me, but I remember when I was looking at changing from a 100 amp 1G alternator to a 130 amp 3G alternator, the 3G produced more output at idle than the 1G did at 2,000 RPM. That was enough to seal the deal for me. I installed the 130 amp 3G and haven't looked back.
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I am not sure where this should go but here is the story. I run two large (16 inch puller and pusher) fans on my coupes, drawing a lot of amps. You could really see on the volt meter when they kicked in. Add air and lights and fuel pumps and the amp draw at low RPM's is a lot. I was running a Generation One 140 amp alternator. I felt this was not enough at 1000 RPM idle. So, I called one of the major performance automotive supply houses and asked the question what was the output of their Private Label 150 Amp Generation 3 unit compared to their 240 Amp Gen 3 at 1000 RPM idle. The sales person did not know but gave me the phone number of the manufacturer of their private label units. I called them and we had an extensive conversation.
I asked about the private label units and how they compared to the manufacturer's units. The representative, I spoke to was up in the sales administration end of the company. I was told they manufacture the P/L units TO THE CUSTOMER's specs. Asking how did they differ from their units and was told that the supply houses P/L units had 8 diodes as the manufacturer's unit had 12 diodes for the same output. He said, there were other differences that help reduce the cost of the P/L units without going into detail. So, I went ahead and ordered a 150 AMP unit from the manufacturer. It came in with a QC tag attached which said, 148 amps output a 800 rpm and 176 amps at 1800 rpm. The manufacturer's units are rated at a minimum of 150 amps and 240 amps. While some of the auto supply houses are a max of 150 amps output not a minimum. I am quite satisfied with this Generation 3 unit and know at low rpm, I have all the amps I need for my electrical requirements. The only change to the system was the addition of a 200 amp fuse out of the alternator to protect the system. One thing, these units are not stocked but built to order, check them out on the internet at mechman.com.

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Very good info there Bill.

Note to all, that the quoted rpms are alternator speed, not engine speed.
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