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07-29-2018, 12:46 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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The unthinkable. Broke the windshield
After 13 years with this machine, I've broken a windshield. The windshield frame wasn't damaged but the glass is shattered in the middle of the windshield. So now what to do? The car is an early 92 Everette Morrison. This is a really great car but I'm worried about the owners of E-M actually getting back to me. So I'm looking for ideas on how to get this glass replaced. If I go to the Lexan or synthetic route, who do I talk to and how do I make sure the replacement will have the right curvature and dimensions as the broken windshield? Can it be duplicated from the broken glass? It's still in one piece and in the frame. I've taped it up so it'll stay together. Is it possible to duplicate the glass? I'm looking for any help I can get from all of you.
Figured something would happen as the car was on it's way to the chassis dyno after I put a new cam and lifters in it last fall. .
Thanks everyone.
Tim
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07-29-2018, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 55312
After 13 years with this machine, I've broken a windshield. The windshield frame wasn't damaged but the glass is shattered in the middle of the windshield. So now what to do?
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What does the etching in the glass say? For instance, Velas Laminated
43R 00003 As-1 M6 Dot 73 is common for some of our cars....
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07-29-2018, 03:20 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#0760
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If the glass can be removed from the frame you can get a polycarbonate replacement I would assume. There are speciality shops that make them up with a special coating to resist scratches.
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07-29-2018, 03:39 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florence,
AL
Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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Check with Shell Valley I think their glass fits an E-M.
http://wholesalehotrod.com/Wholesale...atalog2010.pdf
Dwight
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07-29-2018, 04:23 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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Thanks for the quick input. I'll look for the etching but I don't recall ever seeing it. Poly will work but not sure about the curvature. I'll look closer at that if I can't get a glass replacement. I'll call out to Nebraska in the next day or so. I'll also look at a friend's FF5 windshield that's cracked to see if it would fit.
I have to take the car in to the guy's with the chassis dyno tomorrow afternoon and work with them on fine tuning the timing and A/F ratio on Tuesday.
Thanks again
Tim
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07-29-2018, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canandaigua,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF MKII Riverside Racer FIA
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Check with your DMV to make sure that you can replace the glass with lexan or some other poly windshield. Some sates only allow DOT rated glass.
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07-29-2018, 07:14 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
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Is it unreasonable to think all the cobra windshields interchange? They seem to look the same.
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07-29-2018, 08:57 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tipp City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison #1320, 514 BBF, Richmond, 3.73 , IRS
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Try contacting E-M plant?
Tim,
You might try placing a call to the EM plant, in Baytown Texas.
They sometimes get back to ya quickly...
Good luck.
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Tipp City, OH
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07-30-2018, 12:59 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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To Patrickt's reply. Found a bug on the glass:
Viracon
Tinted
Safety Float
AS1 M50 DOT 129
No help other than the maker of the glass itself. Went to thier website and they don't mention windshields other than their different types of laminated glass.
Thanks anyway
Tim
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07-31-2018, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ewa Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Street Beasts Cobra 427 S/C, 502 cid
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
Is it unreasonable to think all the cobra windshields interchange? They seem to look the same.
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I would expect that with such small demand, the market can't support many Cobra windshield manufactures. Heck, there may be only one.
I would ship the windshield to any Cobra manufacturer and they may have the needed windshield in stock.
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07-31-2018, 05:38 PM
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Location: Williamsport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 55312
To Patrickt's reply. Found a bug on the glass:
Viracon
Tinted
Safety Float
AS1 M50 DOT 129
No help other than the maker of the glass itself. Went to thier website and they don't mention windshields other than their different types of laminated glass.
Thanks anyway
Tim
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thats a standard cobra glass, same one on my kellison, the shell valley will fit
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07-31-2018, 05:44 PM
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Cool!
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07-31-2018, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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My windshield broke and when I called Shelby American they pointed me to the Shell Valley part. It was in fact made in England. Apparently they are the importer into the US.
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08-01-2018, 12:44 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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Looks like Shell Valley is it. I've got the next 2 days off so I'll focus on getting this going. Spent part of yesterday doing dyno tuning and changing springs on the distributor. Will finish it up today I hope. Knock on wood, this engine is very stout. Kudos to Brent Lykins for helping me with the new cam grind and acting as my parts supplier. Good guy.
Thanks to all of you !
Tim
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08-02-2018, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Bern,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic #3126, 351C Stroked to 383
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Cobra Restorers have windshields in the online catalog for something 900.-USD.
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08-02-2018, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: May 2015
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Plastic (poly Carbonate) Windshield
I replaced my broken glass windshield with a poly unit from Cobra Valley. It is very clear, doesnt seem to chip (has sustained some scary impacts without marks let alone breaks)...A bit pricey.
They can custom cut them.
Cobra Valley's PolyGlass Hi-Performance Optically Formed Windshields
Did it myself with the help of a competent friend, not too bad: left the uprights in just removed the frame from the uprights...
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08-02-2018, 12:05 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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Update:
Spoke to Shell Valley and they said they are E-M's supplier for windshields. I ordered one yesterday. They will assemble it in a new frame today and ship it out to arrive by mid week next. They make their own frames out of Bronze and send them out to be chrome plated. They are made in Nebraska not England. Apparently the British frames are made for FF5. Robbin at Mid West said the policy I have with Infinity is $0 deductible for glass so this should be no cost. Probably could have just done the glass but the frame looked a little tweaked. I want the top to fit right so I went for the whole assembly with the claim adjuster's blessing. ~$860 delivered. The people at Shell Valley and Infinity have been great to deal with so far. Tom from E-M returned my call this morning as well but I'd already ordered the glass.
Thanks for everyone's help. I'll let you all know the final outcome.
Tim
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08-04-2018, 12:17 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Street Beasts Cobra 427 S/C, 502 cid
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Just for info, HHR Cobra Spares sells glass Cobra windshields. The say that they're made to original Cobra spec. Here's one on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windshield-...sid=m570.l1313
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08-06-2018, 01:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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I've broken a number of screens on my Cobra over the years and I've always had them replaced by one of the main windscreen companies. All the Cobra screens are the same, and they are available off the shelf.
I took my frame out of the car and took it to the Autoglass depot and waited while they swapped the glass. It was all done on my insurance and all I paid was the £75 windscreen excess.
You have a choice of clear or green or brown tint.
Paul
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08-06-2018, 01:57 AM
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Great info here
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427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run
Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
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