Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
March 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31            
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 12:46 PM
55312's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington, VT
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
Posts: 501
Not Ranked     
Default The unthinkable. Broke the windshield

After 13 years with this machine, I've broken a windshield. The windshield frame wasn't damaged but the glass is shattered in the middle of the windshield. So now what to do? The car is an early 92 Everette Morrison. This is a really great car but I'm worried about the owners of E-M actually getting back to me. So I'm looking for ideas on how to get this glass replaced. If I go to the Lexan or synthetic route, who do I talk to and how do I make sure the replacement will have the right curvature and dimensions as the broken windshield? Can it be duplicated from the broken glass? It's still in one piece and in the frame. I've taped it up so it'll stay together. Is it possible to duplicate the glass? I'm looking for any help I can get from all of you.

Figured something would happen as the car was on it's way to the chassis dyno after I put a new cam and lifters in it last fall. .

Thanks everyone.

Tim
__________________
At first, nothing happened. Then after a few seconds, nothing continued to happen.

Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 01:56 PM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,889
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 55312 View Post
After 13 years with this machine, I've broken a windshield. The windshield frame wasn't damaged but the glass is shattered in the middle of the windshield. So now what to do?
What does the etching in the glass say? For instance, Velas Laminated
43R 00003 As-1 M6 Dot 73 is common for some of our cars....


Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 03:20 PM
Blas's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#0760
Posts: 3,387
Not Ranked     
Default

If the glass can be removed from the frame you can get a polycarbonate replacement I would assume. There are speciality shops that make them up with a special coating to resist scratches.
__________________
Wiring Diagrams: SPF MKII, MKIII, GT40, CSX7000, CSX8000, Corvette Grand Sport, and Shelby Sebring, Bondurant & Cinema Tribute Cars.
Owner’s Manuals: SPF MKII, CSX7000, CSX8000, Sebring, Bondurant, & Cinema Tribute Cars.

Large, easy to read and trace schematics with part numbers, wire colors, wire gauge, fuses, and electrical upgrade information. Trouble-shooting and replacement part numbers for those roadside repair adventures.
SPFWiringDiagrams@Comcast.net
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 03:39 PM
Dwight's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florence, AL
Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
Posts: 4,511
Not Ranked     
Smile

Check with Shell Valley I think their glass fits an E-M.

http://wholesalehotrod.com/Wholesale...atalog2010.pdf

Dwight
__________________
''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' ~ John Wayne
"Happiness Is A Belt-Fed Weapon"
life's goal should be; "to be smarter than inanimate objects"
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 04:23 PM
55312's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington, VT
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
Posts: 501
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks for the quick input. I'll look for the etching but I don't recall ever seeing it. Poly will work but not sure about the curvature. I'll look closer at that if I can't get a glass replacement. I'll call out to Nebraska in the next day or so. I'll also look at a friend's FF5 windshield that's cracked to see if it would fit.

I have to take the car in to the guy's with the chassis dyno tomorrow afternoon and work with them on fine tuning the timing and A/F ratio on Tuesday.

Thanks again

Tim
__________________
At first, nothing happened. Then after a few seconds, nothing continued to happen.

Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 06:46 PM
1795's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canandaigua, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF MKII Riverside Racer FIA
Posts: 2,471
Not Ranked     
Default

Check with your DMV to make sure that you can replace the glass with lexan or some other poly windshield. Some sates only allow DOT rated glass.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 07:14 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Lafayette, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
Posts: 1,295
Not Ranked     
Default

Is it unreasonable to think all the cobra windshields interchange? They seem to look the same.
__________________
Cobra loving, autocrossing Grandpa Architect.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2018, 08:57 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tipp City, OH
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison #1320, 514 BBF, Richmond, 3.73 , IRS
Posts: 107
Send a message via AIM to Trubble Send a message via MSN to Trubble Send a message via Yahoo to Trubble
Not Ranked     
Default Try contacting E-M plant?

Tim,

You might try placing a call to the EM plant, in Baytown Texas.
They sometimes get back to ya quickly...

Good luck.
__________________
Bill
Tipp City, OH
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-30-2018, 12:59 AM
55312's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington, VT
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
Posts: 501
Not Ranked     
Default

To Patrickt's reply. Found a bug on the glass:

Viracon
Tinted
Safety Float
AS1 M50 DOT 129

No help other than the maker of the glass itself. Went to thier website and they don't mention windshields other than their different types of laminated glass.

Thanks anyway

Tim
__________________
At first, nothing happened. Then after a few seconds, nothing continued to happen.

Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2018, 11:54 AM
520SC's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ewa Beach, HI
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Street Beasts Cobra 427 S/C, 502 cid
Posts: 121
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
Is it unreasonable to think all the cobra windshields interchange? They seem to look the same.
I would expect that with such small demand, the market can't support many Cobra windshield manufactures. Heck, there may be only one.

I would ship the windshield to any Cobra manufacturer and they may have the needed windshield in stock.
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2018, 05:38 PM
FWB's Avatar
FWB FWB is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Williamsport, PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
Posts: 2,703
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 55312 View Post
To Patrickt's reply. Found a bug on the glass:

Viracon
Tinted
Safety Float
AS1 M50 DOT 129

No help other than the maker of the glass itself. Went to thier website and they don't mention windshields other than their different types of laminated glass.

Thanks anyway

Tim

thats a standard cobra glass, same one on my kellison, the shell valley will fit
__________________
Fred B
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2018, 05:44 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Lafayette, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
Posts: 1,295
Not Ranked     
Default

Cool!
__________________
Cobra loving, autocrossing Grandpa Architect.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-31-2018, 06:36 PM
twobjshelbys's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,450
Not Ranked     
Default

My windshield broke and when I called Shelby American they pointed me to the Shell Valley part. It was in fact made in England. Apparently they are the importer into the US.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony
CSX4005LA
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 08-01-2018, 12:44 AM
55312's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington, VT
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
Posts: 501
Not Ranked     
Default

Looks like Shell Valley is it. I've got the next 2 days off so I'll focus on getting this going. Spent part of yesterday doing dyno tuning and changing springs on the distributor. Will finish it up today I hope. Knock on wood, this engine is very stout. Kudos to Brent Lykins for helping me with the new cam grind and acting as my parts supplier. Good guy.

Thanks to all of you !

Tim
__________________
At first, nothing happened. Then after a few seconds, nothing continued to happen.

Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2018, 08:56 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Bern, CH
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic #3126, 351C Stroked to 383
Posts: 10
Not Ranked     
Default

Cobra Restorers have windshields in the online catalog for something 900.-USD.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2018, 09:50 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 618
Not Ranked     
Default Plastic (poly Carbonate) Windshield

I replaced my broken glass windshield with a poly unit from Cobra Valley. It is very clear, doesnt seem to chip (has sustained some scary impacts without marks let alone breaks)...A bit pricey.

They can custom cut them.

Cobra Valley's PolyGlass Hi-Performance Optically Formed Windshields

Did it myself with the help of a competent friend, not too bad: left the uprights in just removed the frame from the uprights...
__________________
Superformance 1764
Ford Racing 427 SB
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2018, 12:05 PM
55312's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntington, VT
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
Posts: 501
Not Ranked     
Default

Update:

Spoke to Shell Valley and they said they are E-M's supplier for windshields. I ordered one yesterday. They will assemble it in a new frame today and ship it out to arrive by mid week next. They make their own frames out of Bronze and send them out to be chrome plated. They are made in Nebraska not England. Apparently the British frames are made for FF5. Robbin at Mid West said the policy I have with Infinity is $0 deductible for glass so this should be no cost. Probably could have just done the glass but the frame looked a little tweaked. I want the top to fit right so I went for the whole assembly with the claim adjuster's blessing. ~$860 delivered. The people at Shell Valley and Infinity have been great to deal with so far. Tom from E-M returned my call this morning as well but I'd already ordered the glass.

Thanks for everyone's help. I'll let you all know the final outcome.

Tim
__________________
At first, nothing happened. Then after a few seconds, nothing continued to happen.

Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 08-04-2018, 12:17 AM
520SC's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ewa Beach, HI
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Street Beasts Cobra 427 S/C, 502 cid
Posts: 121
Not Ranked     
Default

Just for info, HHR Cobra Spares sells glass Cobra windshields. The say that they're made to original Cobra spec. Here's one on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windshield-...sid=m570.l1313
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2018, 01:56 AM
FatBoy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire, UK
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
Posts: 1,137
Not Ranked     
Default

I've broken a number of screens on my Cobra over the years and I've always had them replaced by one of the main windscreen companies. All the Cobra screens are the same, and they are available off the shelf.
I took my frame out of the car and took it to the Autoglass depot and waited while they swapped the glass. It was all done on my insurance and all I paid was the £75 windscreen excess.
You have a choice of clear or green or brown tint.

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2018, 01:57 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 670
Not Ranked     
Default

Great info here
__________________
Dan
427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run

Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink