Small block Chevy in a cobra?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Chicagowil

If Chevy would have been of a mind to sell Shelby motors, we would all have Cobras with Chevy motors.

And as to why so many people have used Chevys in their builds for all types of cars, the SBC was a great design. It was easier to develop HP at lower costs than any other motor for years.

The SBF motors were choked with a poor head design for many years. The lower end was strong. But since it is a air pump, a poor efficiency path limited its best performance. Ford realized it with the Trans Am series. They stuck the better flowing Cleveland head on it to get better output. Where SBF motors pulled ahead is when Chevy started mucking around with the SBC and it seemed to stall out with advancement.

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Yes. The small block chevy has decades of winning. Although on the surface, it may not look that impressive, it works, works well. Ford had to copy Chevy to make a competitive engine. They just copied the Big Block Chevy design, with the canted valves, enlarged it a little, and whala 385 series. They downsized it a little and whala 335 series.

Pontiac took FE 427 Tunnel Port heads and put them on their V8, called Ram Air V engines, and it couldn't out perform the SBC.

Smokey Yunick experimented with multiple prototype SBC head designs, even canted valve heads, and they didn't offer much of an advantage over the standard SBC heads at that time. So, nothing was changed.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yes. The small block chevy has decades of winning. Although on the surface, it may not look that impressive, it works, works well. Ford had to copy Chevy to make a competitive engine. They just copied the Big Block Chevy design, with the canted valves, enlarged it a little, and whala 385 series. They downsized it a little and whala 335 series.

Pontiac took FE 427 Tunnel Port heads and put them on their V8, called Ram Air V engines, and it couldn't out perform the SBC.

Smokey Yunick experimented with multiple prototype SBC head designs, even canted valve heads, and they didn't offer much of an advantage over the standard SBC heads at that time. So, nothing was changed.

Yeah I’ve heard all that junk before. None of it is true.

[rodneym]

The first three reasons people use SBC's in their builds......
1. COST
2. COST
3. COST

Don't forget, most of "us" chose VHS over Beta. And it wasn't for quality.

[RUFdriver]

Originally Posted by rodneym

The first three reasons people use SBC's in their builds......
1. COST
2. COST
3. COST

Don't forget, most of "us" chose VHS over Beta. And it wasn't for quality.

Same reason some use junkyard mustang drivetrains in their Cobra builds.
I thought porn decided the Videotape platform.

[Chicagowil]

It looks like I might have stirred the pot here. Was not my intent (I think).

My all time favorite quote of auto designers is for Dr. Porsche (hope I have this right).

"If I had know the 911 engine would put out so much power, I would have never wen to 2.0 liter for the design". In the 20th century, I believe he was the "pure" hot rodder. Never leave any design alone- make it n=better, faster, lighter.

Every creator, regardless of the art or discipline, always 2nd guesses themselves as to how they could have done it better, cheaper or easier.

We "brand bigots" get all sideways trying to copy the original design to hope to feel the creative genius they originally had.

My uncle was back in the 50's the premier Candy Apple Red car painter on the west coast. Won several 1st place prizes at the Oakland Roadster Show. He was so well know that when the auto paint companies tried to make Candy colors easier to paint, they came to him to test if the new paints were easier and better,

But having a family, he walked away from the custom car business and stepped into the insurance repair business. I had the joy of working with him right after High School. It was a real joy, even he was just running a Pontiac Dealership Auto Body shop. But he really missed the custom work!

Bottom line, every one of our cars are a Masterpiece! Our masterpiece- we are all "Monets". Be proud of what you create, the average Joe marvels at what you have done! And I am proud to call each and every one of you a "comrade" in this journey.

As my Grandfather once told me "even an idiot can teach you something, even if its not how to look like and idiot". Opps, I think I just proved my point!

[CobraResurrect]

Originally Posted by Chicagowil

It looks like I might have stirred the pot here. Was not my intent (I think).

My all time favorite quote of auto designers is for Dr. Porsche (hope I have this right).

"If I had know the 911 engine would put out so much power, I would have never wen to 2.0 liter for the design". In the 20th century, I believe he was the "pure" hot rodder. Never leave any design alone- make it n=better, faster, lighter.

Every creator, regardless of the art or discipline, always 2nd guesses themselves as to how they could have done it better, cheaper or easier.

We "brand bigots" get all sideways trying to copy the original design to hope to feel the creative genius they originally had.

My uncle was back in the 50's the premier Candy Apple Red car painter on the west coast. Won several 1st place prizes at the Oakland Roadster Show. He was so well know that when the auto paint companies tried to make Candy colors easier to paint, they came to him to test if the new paints were easier and better,

But having a family, he walked away from the custom car business and stepped into the insurance repair business. I had the joy of working with him right after High School. It was a real joy, even he was just running a Pontiac Dealership Auto Body shop. But he really missed the custom work!

Bottom line, every one of our cars are a Masterpiece! Our masterpiece- we are all "Monets". Be proud of what you create, the average Joe marvels at what you have done! And I am proud to call each and every one of you a "comrade" in this journey.

As my Grandfather once told me "even an idiot can teach you something, even if its not how to look like and idiot". Opps, I think I just proved my point!

Back in the 60's, drag racers, especially west coast racers, loved that color. And so did I.