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07-29-2021, 10:09 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,111
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My $0.02 CORRECTED............
KMS/CSX are the same car in alloy and will be well north of $100k to start particularly if you are going buggy spring.
Remember std KMS is like an ERA 289 car, a hybrid using a 427 chassis.
KMS upcharges for buggy spring chassis Big$$.
SPF is a great option as its both CSX glass and SPF using buggy spring chassis.
I love ERA cars but I would pay the extra few bucks for SPF as its buggy spring and not a Hybrid chassis. More correct. Glass CSX cars are SPF cars.....
Top down:
CSX alloy expect finished price >$200k
KMS alloy expect completed at >$200K buggy Spring ($less hybrid chassis)
CSX glass ~ $140k buggy spring
SPF glass ~ $110k buggy spring
ERA glass ~ $100k glass / hybrid chassis
Of course I menatlly added things for correctness which could change $ but this should be about right in the end for decision making purposes.
The base car is mearley the start as motor, trans, wheels, tires adds $$.
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 07-29-2021 at 01:13 PM..
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07-29-2021, 12:03 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Clayton,
IN
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 838
Posts: 1,143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
My $0.02
KMS/CSX are the same car in alloy and will be well north of $100k to start particularly if you are going buggy spring.
Remember std KMS is like an ERA 289 car, a hybrid using a 427 chassis.
KMS upcharges for buggy spring chassis Big$$.
SPF is a great option as its both CSX glass and SPF using buggy spring chassis.
I love ERA cars but I would pay the extra few bucks for SPF as its buggy spring and not a Hybrid chassis. More correct. Glass CSX cars are SPF cars.....
Top down:
CSX alloy expect finished price >$175k
KMS alloy expect completed at >$150K buggy Spring ($125k hybrid chassis)
CSX glass ~ $140k buggy spring
SPF glass ~ $110k buggy spring
ERA glass ~ $70k glass / hybrid chassis
Of course I menatlly added things for correctness which could change $ but this should be about right in the end for decision making purposes.
The base car is mearley the start as motor, trans, wheels, tires adds $$.
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I think your ERA price is too low. I am in process now and I would be thrilled to get done for $70k. Closer to six figures if you do the assembly.
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07-29-2021, 12:35 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grubby
I think your ERA price is too low. I am in process now and I would be thrilled to get done for $70k. Closer to six figures if you do the assembly.
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OK, then under the new rule the car is not real.  |
07-29-2021, 12:50 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2021
Cobra Make, Engine: Alloy Shelby CSX 8057/Kirkham 1010, 289 Vintage Lykins Build
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
My $0.02
KMS/CSX are the same car in alloy and will be well north of $100k to start particularly if you are going buggy spring.
Remember std KMS is like an ERA 289 car, a hybrid using a 427 chassis.
KMS upcharges for buggy spring chassis Big$$.
SPF is a great option as its both CSX glass and SPF using buggy spring chassis.
I love ERA cars but I would pay the extra few bucks for SPF as its buggy spring and not a Hybrid chassis. More correct. Glass CSX cars are SPF cars.....
Top down:
CSX alloy expect finished price >$175k
KMS alloy expect completed at >$150K buggy Spring ($125k hybrid chassis)
CSX glass ~ $140k buggy spring
SPF glass ~ $110k buggy spring
ERA glass ~ $70k glass / hybrid chassis
Of course I menatlly added things for correctness which could change $ but this should be about right in the end for decision making purposes.
The base car is mearley the start as motor, trans, wheels, tires adds $$.
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It would appear that your prices are too low for the CSX alloy and KMS. CSX alloy roller starts at $181K. The KMS roller(billet suspension) is $200K. KMS finish (polish/brushed) - plus $25K, leaf spring suspension(recommended) - plus $10K. KMS appears to easily exceed $250K with engine and trans. |
07-29-2021, 07:06 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Danville,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6079 482CI CSX cross ram
Posts: 1,354
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
My $0.02 CORRECTED............
KMS/CSX are the same car in alloy and will be well north of $100k to start particularly if you are going buggy spring.
Remember std KMS is like an ERA 289 car, a hybrid using a 427 chassis.
KMS upcharges for buggy spring chassis Big$$.
SPF is a great option as its both CSX glass and SPF using buggy spring chassis.
I love ERA cars but I would pay the extra few bucks for SPF as its buggy spring and not a Hybrid chassis. More correct. Glass CSX cars are SPF cars.....
Top down:
CSX alloy expect finished price >$200k
KMS alloy expect completed at >$200K buggy Spring ($less hybrid chassis)
CSX glass ~ $140k buggy spring
SPF glass ~ $110k buggy spring
ERA glass ~ $100k glass / hybrid chassis
Of course I menatlly added things for correctness which could change $ but this should be about right in the end for decision making purposes.
The base car is mearley the start as motor, trans, wheels, tires adds $$.
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your comment about glass CSX cars being SPF cars? you are correct in saying that both cars are made by hi-tech in the same factory but completely different cars. |
07-30-2021, 06:54 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,111
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Originally Posted by ERA 626
your comment about glass CSX cars being SPF cars? you are correct in saying that both cars are made by hi-tech in the same factory but completely different cars.
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We are talikng about the current 289 cars here, not 427 cars to which your statement holds true.
Yes "HiTech" but virtually the same in 289 lanes..... 
The reason I stated SPF as most understand its HT some will see HiTech as possibly from AZ vs the one from S. Africa. Confusing....
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 07-30-2021 at 06:58 AM..
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07-30-2021, 08:02 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
Posts: 3,787
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA 626
your comment about glass CSX cars being SPF cars? you are correct in saying that both cars are made by hi-tech in the same factory but completely different cars.
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This is absolutely incorrect in relation to the slabside Cobras. The HT/SPF 427 car is completely different from the 427 that they build for Shelby, but their slabside is the exact same car, minus badging, branding, that all-important (to some) CSX number and I think - as mentioned by Larry - the optional differential.
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Originally Posted by ERA 626
The customer service from ERA will be light years better that SPF...
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Well the OP never asked about customer service, so I'd best leave that debate to others except to add that given ERA's well-established focus and pride in their limited production and extremely long wait times; it wouldn't surprise me one bit if SPF wasn't better able (and/or inclined**) to be faster and more responsive to new or potential customers and their pesky inquiries.
**kinda based on personal experience 
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Last edited by Buzz; 07-30-2021 at 08:10 AM..
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07-30-2021, 11:24 AM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,336
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Originally Posted by Buzz
This is absolutely incorrect in relation to the slabside Cobras. The HT/SPF 427 car is completely different from the 427 that they build for Shelby, but their slabside is the exact same car, minus badging, branding, that all-important (to some) CSX number and I think - as mentioned by Larry - the optional differential.
Well the OP never asked about customer service, so I'd best leave that debate to others except to add that given ERA's well-established focus and pride in their limited production and extremely long wait times; it wouldn't surprise me one bit if SPF wasn't better able (and/or inclined**) to be faster and more responsive to new or potential customers and their pesky inquiries.
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It seems to me that if you want to get an SPF and want good customer service that you should be getting the car from forum user "Mark IV".
https://www.timemachineauto.com/
From reading the posts by forum user "1795", it seems that time machines auto is extremely helpful. |
07-30-2021, 03:16 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canandaigua,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF MKII Riverside Racer FIA
Posts: 2,507
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I would highly recommend Rick (Mark IV) to anyone considering buying an SPF. He goes above and beyond, will go out of his way to help people who he has not sold a car to, and will not feed you a line of garbage to get a sale. If there are delays or problems he will let you know up front, before you put your money down.
A truly class act.
Jim
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