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Old 12-30-2023, 12:47 PM
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Update on Cobra shipping.

The shipping company (CMA CGM) sent their ship through the Suez Canal and the Red Sea. This ship is scheduled to pick up my container in Singapore and transport it to the US. With a naval escort and turning off their satellite transponder, so their location could not be targeted, they have made it through. After 3+ days incommunicado, the ship just reestablished satellite communication and is now 500 miles offshore out of range of the Houthi rockets/drones.

The effect on global shipping is going to ripple for some time with increased costs and delays. My one little story of delay is nothing compared to the global economic ramifications. Many, if not most, shipping companies are not braving the Red Sea situation.

In hindsight, my car could have gone from South Africa to the US East Coast by ship and then by rail/truck to California. Much faster and safer. That is how my roller went from Utah (Kirkham) to South Africa in the first place. No canals involved (Suez or Panama) and no war zones.
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Old 01-09-2024, 01:49 PM
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Shipping update.

Shipping is further delayed.

Now a fourth ship involved with added stops in Viet Nam and Hong Kong before heading to the US. Container is scheduled to sit unmoved for 12 days in Hong Kong before being picked up by the final ship.

Initial transit time was scheduled at 50 days. Now 70 days. I would not be surprised if there are more changes.

Looking at the shipping records for Superformance/Shelby from Port Elizabeth to the West Coast for the past two years, there is a wide variation in transit times. The 50 days initially estimated seems to be an outlier on the short side. Some of the transits take up to 90 days. The transits to the East Coast are much, much shorter. I wish I had enough advance information to have insisted on that route by sea and then by land (train, truck) from the East to the West. Would have shaved a month or so off.

The car initially took that route in reverse, going from Utah to Norfolk, VA by rail and then by ship to South Africa. That took 46 days altogether.

Of course, this ignores the fundamental question of why the car needed to go to South Africa in the first place except to save on production costs. I found out later that I could have had the car finished by Kirkham except that Shelby would have wanted another 18% surcharge for the privilege. A lot of money added on to the alloy price but I would have had the car a year or so earlier. I was not offered the surcharge route but I was also being told the car would be finished in South Africa in 2022! Actually the car ended up being in South Africa June 2022 to December 2023. Promises of a dedicated production team for the alloy cars that could turn them around in 30 days were absurdly inaccurate.

It appears to me that instead of any special treatment for the alloy cars they were placed in the production queue when they arrived in SA as if they were a new order, just placed. No recognition of the 7 months that had already transpired since ordered (for me) and 19 months for another alloy customer.

The alloy 289 cars are a minor item in the grand production scheme. The bread and butter fiberglass cars are turned out in measurable number.s. An alloy 289 CSX car is only produced 1-2 times/year, at least via the SA route.
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Since you placed your order in December of 2021 I think I fair time for having it on the street is going to be two and half years. Turnkey ERAs are running around that time, maybe a bit longer.
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Of course I didn't have to buy marine insurance for mine.
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Since you placed your order in December of 2021 I think I fair time for having it on the street is going to be two and half years. Turnkey ERAs are running around that time, maybe a bit longer.
David Kirkham already had an alloy 289 body/chassis in stock when I placed my order so I didn't have to start with waiting for it to be manufactured in Poland and shipped to Utah. I understand there are no 289 chassis/bodies in stock anymore at Kirkham. And the tooling was being sent back to Utah from Poland for refurbishment. So no new alloy 289 body/chassis via Kirkham for a while.

Thus, if you placed an order today, assuming same production process including via SA, might be looking well into 3 years plus.
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