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Old 01-28-2022, 11:07 AM
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While Cobras went for good money at Mecum. Kirkham 427 at Gooding and Co online auction went for $100K today.


Given that Kirkham rollers are in excess of $200k now, this seems way under market. Unless there is something seriously wrong with the car, that I missed.

I'd post a link but their website is down.
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Old 01-28-2022, 11:21 AM
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Wow!!! Here is the link to the auction. Nothing stands out in the description that would be a negative and it met the reserve. At least, as I can see.

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https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/...ica-by-kirkham


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While Cobras went for good money at Mecum. Kirkham 427 at Gooding and Co online auction went for $100K today.


Given that Kirkham rollers are in excess of $200k now, this seems way under market. Unless there is something seriously wrong with the car, that I missed.

I'd post a link but their website is down.
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Auctions are a crap shoot. My Ford GT went for 200K under what Craig Jackson and Steve Davis projected. Their placement of my car in the lineup and the promotion it got are indications that their expectations were for a much higher number. Auctions require two or more interested parties, and in the end, two then one. If it starts off with only two and one is not a real spender, you get a low number...
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That Kirkham looks great! Someone got a hell of a deal. It'll probably sell on B.A.T. next month for $180k.
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That Kirkham looks great! Someone got a hell of a deal. It'll probably sell on B.A.T. next month for $180k.
This Backdraft just went for $110K at Barrett-Jackson.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...RTIBLE--251987
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Old 01-28-2022, 01:40 PM
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In reading the description of the auction, there was a note that said this vehicle was Titled as a Ford. I wonder what State allowed that? It wouldn't be the State I live in and I doubt California would either.

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While Cobras went for good money at Mecum. Kirkham 427 at Gooding and Co online auction went for $100K today.


Given that Kirkham rollers are in excess of $200k now, this seems way under market. Unless there is something seriously wrong with the car, that I missed.

I'd post a link but their website is down.
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Old 01-28-2022, 01:43 PM
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That Kirkham looks great! Someone got a hell of a deal. It'll probably sell on B.A.T. next month for $180k.
I saw exactly the same thing happen to an online Gooding auction for a first rate Lotus Elan that sold for 50% of market value, at no reserve. The Lotus then showed up on BAT a few weeks later and sold at market price (2xGooding).

My conclusion is that the Gooding online auctions really are a "crap shoot". Especially at no (or low) reserve. I don't think they attract enough serious retail buyers. Just opportunistic dealers.

The seller of the Kirkham left at least $100K on the table. The only saving grace is that the car was a 2007 so perhaps the seller purchased the car 15 years ago for a (now) low price - discounting inflation/cost of money.
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Well that color scheme is interesting. Perhaps I can see why that went at a discount.

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This Backdraft just went for $110K at Barrett-Jackson.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...RTIBLE--251987
Wow, that car was probably 70k out the door brand new.
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1nt, certainly wouldn't have been my color choice, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If the seller had wanted, he probably could and dropped $15K to paint it a different color and tripled his money. Just my 2¢.
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Old 01-28-2022, 04:05 PM
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1nt, certainly wouldn't have been my color choice, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If the seller had wanted, he probably could and dropped $15K to paint it a different color and tripled his money. Just my 2¢.
If he'd gone with beige maybe quadrupled it.
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This Backdraft just went for $110K at Barrett-Jackson.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...RTIBLE--251987
"Incredibly lightweight; around 1,800 pounds."

Well there you have it - that's why the BIG $. It was the ULTRA light version! Worth WAY more, even with the additional weight from the passenger role hoop.

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Old 01-28-2022, 06:17 PM
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I have a 54 Studebaker commander coupe that color....don't care that much for it either but it is better than on a Cobra.
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Well that color scheme is interesting. Perhaps I can see why that went at a discount.
That color is a bit of a puke-fest. There are certain cars that just don't mix with pastel colors.
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It's not just Cobra's! Look at what this 1958 AC Ace brought, and it is powered by the most anemic engine of all the Ace based cars! Of course, I never thought we would see Cobra's going for a million +. How many here, remember when the first 427SC went for a staggering $35,000, in the late 70s I believe! https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27328/lot/44/
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Old 01-29-2022, 08:46 AM
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re: the Kirkham : all chrome is pitted. License frame explains it "Carmel by the Sea " .b
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Old 01-30-2022, 05:27 AM
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re: the Kirkham : all chrome is pitted. License frame explains it "Carmel by the Sea " .b
It looks like it has the stainless steel frame and a Shebly aluminum block motor.

That patina probably hurt the sale price a bit, but I think the paint scheme is still the real killer of the sale price. Unless you really like those colors, I can just think the buyer was thinking this car needs a re-paint (or strip for polishing).
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That Kirkham looks great! Someone got a hell of a deal. It'll probably sell on B.A.T. next month for $180k.
I'd have to paint it. That alone would have driven me away from it. Hate body shop jails .
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That color is a bit of a puke-fest. There are certain cars that just don't mix with pastel colors.
Works if you're an LA Rams fan!
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Can't get past the yellow stripes. If they would have at least done an orange stripe, AKA Gulf colors, that might have worked?
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