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Old 08-31-2022, 06:27 PM
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I think we are all missing a potential hidden benefit of the conversion to renewable energy sources for travel. With the cost of air travel, that our politicians burden us with, being so high, we should require them (our politicians) to fly electric aircraft!

I can see how this entire renewable energy sources for traveling problem can become a self-correcting problem, potentially in a very short time.
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I think we are all missing a potential hidden benefit of the conversion to renewable energy sources for travel. With the cost of air travel, that our politicians burden us with, being so high, we should require them (our politicians) to fly electric aircraft!

I can see how this entire renewable energy sources for traveling problem can become a self-correcting problem, potentially in a very short time.
Since there aren't any electric airplanes make them take electric trains. Lets convert all of Amtrak to battery operated engines.
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Since there aren't any electric airplanes make them take electric trains. Lets convert all of Amtrak to battery operated engines.
Actually, all our trains are electric! At least Diesel electric, where the diesel engine runs a generator, which powers the electric motor. Just like our Navy's nuclear aircraft carriers and submarines! I have wondered why car companies haven't done this for a few decades! Think about it, the generator would be easier to make low emissions, and they could easily get 200mpg or more. Cheers, Dennis
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Actually, all our trains are electric! At least Diesel electric, where the diesel engine runs a generator, which powers the electric motor. Just like our Navy's nuclear aircraft carriers and submarines! I have wondered why car companies haven't done this for a few decades! Think about it, the generator would be easier to make low emissions, and they could easily get 200mpg or more. Cheers, Dennis
Yes, I know that the engine on a locomotive is actually used to power a generator. But I'm wanting the idiots to get across country on 2 D-cells. In 4 hours. Just to show them how stupidly insane this whole thing is.

Another consideration... Refineries depend on constant throughput to operate at peak efficiency. Remember that even now when the formulations change refinery operation is interrupted. If electric vehicles truly dominate, then refinery production will be cut as consumption goes down, eventually to the point where refineries will shut down leaving fewer and fewer. Not all products will be needed - for example, you don't get diesel (and jet fuel etc) without some portion of the product being gasoline... And when the volume goes way down, the cost and prices will go way up. Expect the cost of an airline ticket to go up as fuel costs change as will all those products that refine at less than gasoline. Since current refineries produce about 50% gasoline from crude, and gas will be waste product what will they do with it???
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...I have wondered why car companies haven't done this for a few decades! Think about it, the generator would be easier to make low emissions...
I thought of this alot of years ago when EVs were starting to gain traction. I thought it would be a good match for a low RPM, high torque 2 cyl diesel engine to run a generator. But apparently it's not a new idea and had been tried at some point in Europe and deemed impractical. Don't know why. The Top Gear guys in fact did a parody on the theme...
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Since there aren't any electric airplanes make them take electric trains. Lets convert all of Amtrak to battery operated engines.
Electric planes and politicians were made for each other, especially when the batteries die in flight
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Since there aren't any electric airplanes make them take electric trains. Lets convert all of Amtrak to battery operated engines.
Electric aircraft are definitely on their way. Baby steps so far, but there's no doubt they'll be a 'thing' for short hops.

Harbour Air’s Electric Seaplane Just Successfully Completed Its First Point-to-Point Flight

The retrofitted Havilland Beaver flew nearly two miles from the Canadian mainland to Vancouver Island.


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Electric aircraft are definitely on their way. Baby steps so far, but there's no doubt they'll be a 'thing' for short hops.

Harbour Air’s Electric Seaplane Just Successfully Completed Its First Point-to-Point Flight

The retrofitted Havilland Beaver flew nearly two miles from the Canadian mainland to Vancouver Island.


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Ring me up again when it can fly from NY to LA non-stop.
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Ring me up again when it can fly from NY to LA non-stop.
The first cross country flight was made in 1911 a Wright Flyer, The Vin Fiz, Piloted by Calbraith Perry Rodgers, only took 50 days, I am sure an electric plane could beat that record!
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