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12-18-2002, 10:26 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 454 S.O.
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Cobrabill:
Series one a sucess? Please, $142k for 320 hp with no options. I'm sure a stock Z06 Vette would destroy this car for $90k cheaper. Anybody know how many sold to date?
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“If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower.”
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12-18-2002, 10:39 PM
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Jeff- i stand corrected.I should have said"his creations in the 60's".Ya got me!
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12-18-2002, 10:43 PM
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Bill:
That's ok, we will just blame it on "bench racing".  
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Jeff
“If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower.”
Mark Donahue
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12-18-2002, 10:46 PM
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Mark IV,
You may not be as verbose but you said it better than I ever could.
I have been guilty of it in the past and will probably do it again after the holidays. I am taking a break from ALL hostilities during the the holidays.
Then I will go back to hating everyone all over again.
until then HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
TURK
ho ho ho!
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12-19-2002, 07:06 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 roadster with 351C-4B
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Come on over Excaliber
Might be a bit cold here though. To get my car through out of state transfer they looked at the odometer and walked away. Didn't even check the serial number!
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12-19-2002, 07:20 AM
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You know the simple thing for the chichen farmer to do is to enjoy the fruits of his past efforts and quit trying to kill everyone elses fun. I wish he could see what he has done and be a part of it.
I know compititon is fierce in the business world, I see it everyday in the home building business. I still will not down talk my compition or outright lie to anyone just to get a sale. Does ethics come into play somewhere in ol' Shelby's world.....
Guess not. Shame on you Carroll. "I know you momma tought you betta"
Gotta hate lies and thieves
Ferrari Killer
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12-19-2002, 08:58 AM
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Excaliber-i agree on the "tall tales/fishing story" thing.Also the non-picking apart of your friends story.But....i have to ask why you would condone someone claiming something that a Superior court has specifically told him he CAN'T?
More B.S. from C.S.-if "it" doesn't benefit him,then it doesn't apply or he just does what he wants anyway.
Complete and utter contempt and dis-respect for anything that doesn't make him a $.
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12-19-2002, 09:06 AM
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Not "a Superior court." Federal District Court. Even better.
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12-19-2002, 09:21 AM
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Cobrabill.......
because I want to think the best of him, like I do with most people. He's an old man now, he says things that arent nice sometimes, like lots of old people do. But there was a time when he orchestrated great things. He is not the first old person around to "tarnish" his image late in life. I will look at his whole record, not this moment in time. I choose to remember the good. And well,,,,,,,,maybe I believe in Santa Claus to.
My son does not know about the controversy surrounding Shelby. In his eyes, like mine when I was younger, he thinks Shelby is a giant among men, perhaps he is right! Some day my son will know about all this, I won't hasten that day before it's time.
Ernie
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12-19-2002, 10:37 AM
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Ernie,
The problem is if Shelby continues running his mouth, there may not be a Cobra for your son or anyone. He is upset because the Series 1 has to meet federal emissions and safety regulations, so he is going to every magazine that will listen and tell them that "all" Cobra kit/Replica builders are using a loophole in the system. That is starting BIG trouble for every Cobra manufacturer out there, including his.
He may just not care, because the "new" Cobra Ford is going to build will have to meet all federal and safety regulations. It sure sounds like he is saying that it won't matter soon, because Ford will make sure when there Cobra is built it has the Goverment backing and no other manufacturer will. It will be the FINAL (and only) SHELBY COBRA, in his eyes.
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12-19-2002, 11:25 AM
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Sssshhhhhh,,,,,,don't tell my son, he's 13 and full of wonder! I won't take away his "hero" before the fullness of time. Hmmm, I wonder when he will be old enough to visit ClubCobra? This is a rough crowd sometimes, lol.
Ernie
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12-19-2002, 12:31 PM
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Spiderman is better
Ernie,
(not serious here, just a little humor. I would not tell anyone how to raise their children)
Your son should look to you first, then Spiderman as a hero. You two have Ole Shel hands down in the hero department.
Spiderman always fights for truth. (Chickenman fights for his truth)
Spiderman always wins (too bad Chickenman)
Spiderman sprays webs from his wrists (Chickenman sprays lies from his mouth)
Spiderman fights crooks (Chickenman is a crook, after all, 140 K for the Series 1????)
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12-19-2002, 01:42 PM
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You can't go wrong with Spiderman!
LOL
Ernie
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12-19-2002, 02:30 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Why this current flurry of CS bashing. The litigation is nearly resolved. SPF and FFR and the rest of the replica manufacturers can keep making there replicas you all can keep buying your replicas. Wheres the continued problem????
Aside from the fact you don't like CS business decisions he has done many good things too.
Many of you should be careful not to make allegations and defamatory remarks against the man. I am shocked at the smears directed at CS on this site which are vicious and uncalled for.
Ok. You didn't like the litigation. Its nearly over. Let it go and move on. In my opinion it helps nothing, detracts from what the focus should be on (the cars and having fun) and tarnishes the car and hobby.
Sad some still get there jollies from this.
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12-19-2002, 02:45 PM
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Tell CS to let it go. He is the cause of this post. He continues to lie through his teeth. Do you think people feel this way about him just for the hell of it? NO, its because he gives us reason to.
Unfortunatly this will continue untill he dies. He brings it upon himself.
Evan: Maybe you can have a meeting with him and tell him to chill.
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12-19-2002, 02:59 PM
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Tom T-I stand corrected..again.
Ernie-i agree with you for the most part.Two saddest days of my life(family things aside)is when i learned what Shelby is really like and finding out Cosby is a racist.At one point i thought both were good upstanding people.
Real 1-what is expressed here is opinion.You can not be held liable for your opinion.And if opinion and truth just happen to be the same-coincidences happen.
If you think this is vicous-you've led a sheltered life.And it is deserved(damn-there's my opinion again!)
Where's the continued problem?If you think the lawsuits are over,you need to put the cap back on the tube of glue.
Just because the SPF suit is over i should just kick back and enjoy life?
Who's next?ERA?Kirkham?Oh,wait-he's already screwed them.
No matter what replica you own,if Chicken Farmer is screwing with just one of them,we all lose.Except for the guys who own real ones.But then again-the replica issue is not their concern.
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12-19-2002, 03:22 PM
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There is a difference between opinion and fact. True. However when one states his opinion as fact it can turn around and bite you in the a$$.
Just a little friendly advice (free of charge I might add).
Carry on ol' chap.
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12-19-2002, 04:42 PM
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Mr. Real 1:
You might want to contact a Mr. Carroll Shelby and tell him that you would like it to be put to rest, because he is the one that is going out of his way to say nothing but bad things about EVERY other manufacturer of Cobra Replica/Kit Cars on this forum. He has used profanity and accusations against EVERY other Cobra manufacturer out there. I have not picked up a magazine in the last year were Shelby is in it and he didn't take this topic to the forefront.
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12-19-2002, 07:27 PM
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Mr. Real 1;
Just in case you have not read too many magazines or seen too many "car" shows on your tv,I'll remind you that CS has started this pi$$ing match and he is the one who continues to pour gas on the fire,not the members of this club!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone here has a "right" to bash him to their happy heart's content the way I see it, because he goes on national tv and gives interviews in national auto magazines and the secound thing out of his mouth is curse words and lies about the cobra replica industry.......
He deserves all the bashing he gets as far as I'm concerned,after all, remember, he started this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: As far as the bashing goes,I think it is rather mild here considering what he has done and what he is trying to do to an entire industry..........
David
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12-19-2002, 09:49 PM
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Anything i haved stated as fact-i can prove.The rest is my "opinion".
And my"opinion"won't be lonely anytime soon.
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