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				01-20-2003, 01:24 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re 351 windsor block number 
 Guys, 
  I know this has been on before but I can't find the thread. A friend of mine has a 351 windsor motor that he wants to get some parts for and we don't know the correct year for sure. The numbers by the starter are D4AE-6015-AA5. I have a partial breakdown but the parts store doesn't agree. My breakdown says it is a 1974 Galaxie Engine and I don't think they made Galaxies in 1974 but am not sure. I am pretty sure the D4 means 1974. If it helps the water pump hose to the bottom outlet of the radiator is on the right side or passenger side. The parts man said the water pump has to be on the left hand side and I know they don't all go out the left hand side as my stroker doesn't. I showed it to the parts man and was told it isn't even a Windsor block and I know for a fact it is. Anyway it would be much appreciated if someone could give me the correct breakdown on this number or a link where I can find it so we can be sure.
 
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				01-20-2003, 01:32 PM
			
			
			
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 Maybe its a cleveland. Not sure what year they quit making them. My ex brother in law had a cleveland in a 72 Galaxie.  Jim |  
	
		
	
	
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				01-20-2003, 01:43 PM
			
			
			
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 Jim, 
  It is definately a Windsor block. Cleveland heads are different and the valve covers in a Cleveland have 8 bolts instead of six. I know that my stroker was a 351 Windsor block but haven't looked under it to see just what the numbers are on it. Thanks for the try.
 
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				01-20-2003, 02:07 PM
			
			
			
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				 Parts guys 
 Ron, 
Auto parts counter guys are real good at picking up parts and ringing up your credit card. If they knew anything about auto parts they would be auto mechanics.   
Sorry but I don't know part numbers either.   
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				01-20-2003, 02:14 PM
			
			
			
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 Cranky, 
  I have came to that conclusion. I hate to go to a parts store around here any more. If you can't take a part with you it is almost impossible to find anyone in these psrts stores that can help you at all. I do know that the Windsors did have water pumps that came out on the right side because my stroker does but the guys at Canton, Ohio that built it just toild me to ask for gaskets etc. for a 1962-1976 Windsor. I believe that Ron ( Computer Works) has a breakdown or link. Thanks for trying. Have a great day.
 
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				01-20-2003, 02:33 PM
			
			
			
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				01-20-2003, 02:52 PM
			
			
			
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 Roscoe, 
  Thanks a ton for the link. I just went out and made a printed copy and will take it to the parts guy tomorrow. I know one of you guys had this link and now I have it in my records. 
 
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				01-20-2003, 05:00 PM
			
			
			
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 It's a 1974 Block.   
C9 = 1969 
D1 = 1971 
D2 = 1972 
D3 = 1973  
D4 = 1974 
so on and so forth 
go to www.cehighperformance.com  for further information.
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				01-20-2003, 05:18 PM
			
			
			
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 Ron61;
 You  have  a  351-W  block  cast in  1974  peroid......The  water  pump  outlet  means  nothing...I  have  an  aluminum  water  pump  from  a  1965  289  Mustang  on  my  351-W.Been  on  there  since  1996  and  has  been  working  just  fine. The  outlet  is  on  the  opposite  side  as  the  351-W,water  pumps  from  as  early  as  65  will  fit or  interchange  on  all  289's,302's,&351-W's....
 
 A  lot  of  small  block  parts  will  interchange  and  most  "parts  guys"  don't  have  a  clue  what  will  and won't  work...  While  junk  yard  hunting  I  have  seen  at  least  three  times,a 302  with  one  original  head  and  the  other  from  an  early  351-W.Car  runs  fine,how  I  have  no  idea,these  two  heads  have  different  combustion  chamber  size  as  well  as  valve sizes...I  guess  the  poor  guy  got  what  he  could  afford  to  keep  his  old  car  going....
 
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				01-20-2003, 05:19 PM
			
			
			
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 Meangrenny, 
  Thanks for the other link. I have now got a print out of it and between the two I think our small block problem with the parts people will be over. I have 17 pages of the codes and breakdowns bor the big block FE engines and now that I have these for the small blocks maybe our little bunch won't have to fight and spend so much time arguing with some of the parts people. It is frustrating to stand at the counter with a part and have a parts sales person tell you there is no such thing. Example, the right side water pump. They don't exist for the 351 Windsor and mine can't possibly be right. Many thanks for all the help guys.
 
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