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Old 01-28-2003, 01:14 PM
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Tom, I have home made blue prints of the lift jacks to scale, two pieces that will need welded and drilled for bolts. I will email them if you want to build them yourself, I think the size is just right.
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Old 01-28-2003, 02:39 PM
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Hey pathenry:

Sounds great. With drawings I can knock them out in quick order. I might make the pads out of 6061-T4 and give them a good polishing. Anything to reduce weight, as long as looks and strength aren't compromised.

About the attaching hardware, or the bolts and sleeves? Any idea of the correct lengths?

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Old 01-28-2003, 02:42 PM
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speed220,

Check with ERA, but I am pretty sure that the quick jacks are not meant to be functional on the ERA cars.

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Old 01-28-2003, 02:46 PM
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Jamie,

I don't plan to lift the car with them, so no problem. But I think I read a thread where Bob Putnam said they would do the job if need be. I don't plan to try, though.

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Old 01-28-2003, 03:08 PM
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Tom, I have home made blue prints of the lift jacks to scale, two pieces that will need welded and drilled for bolts. I will email them if you want to build them yourself, I think the size is just right.
You can send me a copy also if it's not too much trouble!
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Old 01-28-2003, 04:16 PM
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This is a subjective question. I like both.

Bumperettes look better on a street spec car. Quick jacks look more accurate on comp and S/C spec cars.

As far as bumperettes being really functional or providing protection I think that they are more aesthetic than functional.

The quick jacks on a CSX, however, are functional.


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Less is better. None of the quick jacks I have seen are strong enough to lift the car with out pushing them into the body. Thought about welding a web between the rods but then figured how offten would I really use them.
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There is little room between the quick jack's bolts and the holes in the body. I think even on a CSX, if you use the quickjacks, they will get moved around a bit, and distort the holes in the body. On most of these cars, if the quickjacks deflect 1/4" you are touching the body. Besides, wjp has one of the nifty tilt-up jacks.
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Fella's, I used 8 or 10" X 1/2" allen head bolts and slid aluminum tubes over them,
I'm not to crazy about shine so I bead blasted them, I even sand blasted the halibrands and then went over them with 'star bright' to take off the sharp edges.
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Old 01-29-2003, 08:44 AM
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I rather like the mean racing look of the quick jacks, but I also have another perspective:

Here in the UK we could never get quickjacks through our vehicle inspection (SVA test). So bumpers or bumperettes it is for me. (no nudge bars tho' - that's just too shiny for a Brit).

Since the US is a tad more litiginous than the UK, how on earth do you guys get your insurance companies to accept quickjacks? They would be purely lethal to any poor pedestrian's legs you were unfortunate enough to collide with.

I could see lawyers making much of the additional pain and injury caused by quickjacks???
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll post a picture of my car after I make the change. If you haven't already looked at my gallery, it's shown as currently equipped with bumperettes.
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Since the US is a tad more litiginous than the UK, how on earth do you guys get your insurance companies to accept quickjacks? They would be purely lethal to any poor pedestrian's legs you were unfortunate enough to collide with.

I could see lawyers making much of the additional pain and injury caused by quickjacks???
What, do you brits have soft foam covered front bumpers so that you can hit pedestrians? If you are careless enough to run into a pedestrian, does it really matter if you have quick jacks or bumperettes? What would your defense be, "Your honor, I did my best to provide a comfortable front bumper for the pedestrians, so that when I hit them in the crosswalk, it would feel good."
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Old 01-29-2003, 09:22 AM
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Fixit -I can see where you are coming from, but here in the UK bumpers have large radii and are SVA approved, quickjacks don't and are not. And by their very nature they would cause worse injuries in the event of an accident.
It hurts enough just to bang your shins on them!

And accidents do happen.
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Doesn't feel good to bang your head on them either.

I assume that bumper safety standards are intended for vehicle to vehicle interactions, not vehicle to pedestrian encounters. If a car is moving at all when it hits a pedestrian, the ped is going to lose, big time, reguardless of bumper layout.
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