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[Turk]

Guys,
First it seemed like there was an invite for a discussion. As the threads populated it is sounding more and more like ,if you don't subscribe to the party line we should keep our opinions to ourselves.

Is this pretty well laid out and decided and only comments that are welcome are those in agreement and any dissention or discussion should take place elsewhere?

I may not agree with every opinion in here, and I wouldnt take this up again, if I didn't strongly feel that this is THE time to air everything out.

You are all engaged in something that will effect us all, (and it may very well be time to do something about what ails us all) but can't we make this discussion more inclusive and not come across as if here is a certain amount of scolding going on if you don't simply get ..GO FOR IT!!.

If it effects us all, then all should participate.Hell we can't even agree on a name and not likely that we would agree on all the details, but this should be where we discuss this. Not LATER somewhere else.

I am getting the distinct feeling like" Look, we are doing it for your own good and just shut up and listen"..

Am I being too sensitive? I don't have an alternative nor do I have any objection to the efforts put forth by the likes of Klayfish and others. I just think we should make it easier for the debate and the discussion to ensue.


TURK