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		So far I have been unable to find an insurer that will do agreed value.  They will only do stated value, and readily admit THAT is a "starting" point from which the subtract normal wear and tear, mileage etc. 
 
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		excalibur...keep searching, there  are many co's that do Agreed Value, at least in the mainland 48 states. bill 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Well, didn't want to post a new topic b/c it's not FFR related but wanted to share this.  
Not 2 hrs ago my wife was driving our new 2003 Honda Pilot with the kids in back watching the DVD. Driving down HWY 54 when a lady decided she wanted to turn left while in the right lane. My wife T-boned this lady spinning them into the ditch. Wife and kids, and others involved not injured whatsoever. Honda Pilot on the other hand has massive frontal damage. I haven't even changed the  oil yet. I know the FFR wreck was all me, but what kind of freak'n luck do you have to have for this to happen? No need for response, just think of how lucky you are to not have 2/3 vehicles you own all bashed up.
 
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		To  all; 
 
   I  am  in  the  insurance  industry  in  claims,have  been  for  10  years  now. To  clear  up  a  few  misconceptions  let  me  state  the  following;;; 
 
99.9%  of  policy's  written  are  for  A.C.V.,actual  cash  value. 
You  can  get  "agreed  on  value"  policys  for  Cobras. 
When  an  insurance  company  "totals"  your  car,they  pay  you  the  value  of  the  car  and  then  the  car  belongs  to  them  to  do  as  they  please  with  it,as  they  have  just  bought  it  from  you... 
They  are  then  sold  for  "salvage"  mostly  thru    salvage  dealer,some  are  "bid"  out  to  rebuilders  or  dismantlers  for  their  parts. 
 You  do  have  the  option  to  "retain  salvage"  on  your  vehicle,you  must  pay  the  insurance  company  the  "reasonable  amount"  they  could  expect  to  get  at  a  salvage  sale. Granted  a  2003  Z-71  is  going  to  bring  a  lot  more  salvage  than  a  1995  Ford  Escort.On  a  car  such  as  a  Cobra  or  any  "specialty"  car  that  will  not  have  a  good  salvage  value,20%  of  the  A.C.V.  would  be  the  norm,meaning  you  could  buy  back  your  car  for  20%  of   the  insurance  settlement..Right  now  late  model  4X4s  will  bring  as  much  as  40%  return  at  a  salvage  sale,we  recently  sold  a  one  year  old  Z-71  hit  hard  dead  center  in  the  front  for  exactly  half  what  we  paid  the  owner  for  it  and  the  owner  was  very  satisfied  with  his  settlement...Most  mid  size  autos  will  bring  from  20  to  30  percent  return,depending  on  the  amount  of  damage.... 
 
Hope  this  clears  up  some  misconceptions  about  the  way  claims  are  handled  and  if  anyone  has  any  questions  about  claims  or  how  they  are  handled,please  feel  free  to  ask... 
 
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		Nuke, 
 
That is just about the worst story I can remember.  Especially since the second incident involves the wife and kids.   But somebody is watching over y'all, since it sounds like everyone is healthy and safe. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Dogonit, Bryan!  
Glad T. and the lil ones are okay! 
What a bummer, though.  I would like to say hang in there. You are getting way more "life experience" than you deserve. At least in the short period of time these incidents have befallen you here. 
I'm prayin', buddy!
 
Now cheer up, it'll get better.
 
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		Thanks Keith!  No more Saturdays for me! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Nuke 
Sorry man, thank the Lord your family is okay--
 
Talk about "living under a bad moon"   
Sure hope State Farm remains loyal to you as your insurance carrier--I had a very bad experience with them in the late '70's--left a foul taste in my mouth regarding them ever since--I had been w/them since '65, had my home, my business and company vechicles, home and personal insurance w/ them-- had one auto claim w/them for a broken windshield from a softball of all things--then one snowy, icy road morning I slid into  the backend of a Cargo delivery truck--about $800 damage to the frontend of my car(the truck got it's "dock" brace bent in, never even claimed against them)--they fixed my car then cancelled my personal auto insurance 2 months later--but they wanted to keep the rest of my business--Yeah right    
Had not had a moving violation in 10-12 years for anything before that--didn't get a ticket then either
 
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		Nuke427: 
I have been away for awhile, in the late unpleasantness in Iraq so I may be new to this fray. Here are my pennies: 
1: Thank goodness you weren't hurt. 
2: Sounds like State Farm is standing up, as they should 
3: The missing rear bar is the probable culprit...a larger front bar 
will 'loosen' the car, and a larger rear will 'tighten' it generally. Your car was probably set up WAY loose because it was dialed in for a rear bar that was absent. Another factor may have been the road surface at the point of loss, with construction going on there is no telling how fouled the road was...even if it looked clean. The 
big rigs leave a lot of trash behind, not the least of which can be a lot of dust if they are hauling rocks, sediment, etc away from a work site. 
4: I hope all works out well, because this hobby (and this site) could use a few more good guys like you! 
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		I believe certain things are warning signs. 
While giving a neighbor a ride in my unfinished car last week, I was so busy showing the kid what to watch for on the gauges...that I blew right thru a stop sign !  His eyes were almost as big as mine.
 
I felt like cr@p for many days afterward.
 
Here I think I'm a professional driver with loads of experience, trying to show a kid what good healthy hobby is...
 
Anyways...IT is always looking for YOU...
 
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There have been a lot of people here praying for you and your family. 
 
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		Well, the wait is over and State Farm came through in rapid fashion. The independant appraiser they paid to send out gave them a figure and that is the figure that will be on the check they issue. It is a couple thousand less than I thought the car was worth, but a couple thousand more than I told myself I would fight for. So I'm happy. FFR 1069 will be picked up tomorrow and sold at an auction. I did not want to buy it and use it for parts on another one. I want to buy another one complete. I wanted to thank David, Manny and especially Neal for all the generous help and time they spent educating me on the insurance business. It sure helped. And thanks to the rest of you with polite replies and advice to my previous posts. Bottom line is issue is closed and the wreck was 2 weeks ago, State Farm came through with what was fair and they did it very quickly. 
 
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		I think the big kicker here will be whether or not they will re-insure you again. 
 
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