ffr or bandb?

coreyc · #1 (**permalink**) 01-05-2004, 09:55 PM

So I have narrowed it down to two kits, the factory five and the bandb.
I am planning on a self-build with a EFI stock 302(to start), coil overs and tube arms all around, 4 wheel disk, solid rear end and 15" or 16" hallibrand style wheels. All this for a street car that will never see the track or strip. I have to keep the cost down to make this project viable so here is the deal.
A ffr kit would cost $11,995. The bandb kit is on sale for $10,995 which includes pretty much everything the ffr comes with plus headers, radiator, gauges, wiper assembly, peddle assembly, steering shaft and column, master cylinder, wiring harness and for a limited time a mustang two front end including brake assembly. Not having sat or driven either car it would seem like a no brainer as far as the financial side of it goes.
Is anyone familiar with both kits and if so could you advise on quality, appearance, ride, handling differences?

Excaliber · #2 (**permalink**) 01-05-2004, 10:08 PM

,,bandb? Never heard of them.

Either way, don't forget to add the cost of the "donor" car and many more "unknowns" along the way. I'd figure NO LESS than $20K when the smoke clears (IF your lucky)!

Ernie

Gordon Claunch · #3 (**permalink**) 01-05-2004, 11:01 PM

I have a B&B, I am very happy with it, no donor parts used in my build, great service, Bryan,Barry and Karen are great to work with.

Excaliber · #4 (**permalink**) 01-05-2004, 11:06 PM

OH!!! B&B Now I get it!

Ernie

JohnE · #5 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 12:06 AM

I am building a B&B roadster now and have been pleased so far with the product & service of the company. You can pay a little more $ and get some of the more tedious stuff done for you, such as door & lids hinged, footbox, brake lines run etc..
Anyway I was faced with the same choice you are and I think both companies are good (I like the chasis & aluminum panels on the Fact 5) but I think B&B gives you more for your$.
Good luck

GOCATS · #6 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 05:54 AM

Ernie-

It's not the drink and combining the 2 B&B's could be dangerous.

Coreyc- I would make the recommedation on getting the Stewart Warner guages because I believe standard guage manufacturer has stopped making them. Check with Brian or Barry about that.

Making a decision based purely on dollars and cents is not always the best. Sometimes driving one and/or riding in one can make a big difference on which one you select. It's all about doing your homework and about the people behind the product they sell. I did pick a B & B but Unique and Superformance were also neck in neck a tough choice.

During your build if you have any questions call them they are almost always there well not between 7-midnight when your doing the late night assembling. They were always were very helpful whenever I ran into problems and believe me you will everyone has.

J.A.

Colonial Cobra · #7 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 06:10 AM

coreyc,
I went back and forth for quite a while also. Research and factory tours finally sold me on FFR. The frame design and the aluminum work look awesome on the finished car. Three years later and still love it. Just as solid as day one and a ball to autocross. Everything fit as advertised.
Build #2 is in process (FFR Daytona Coupe) and cant wait till they have the supercar ready.
Good luck
Brad

OZ · #8 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 06:26 AM

I have a B & B and I am very very happy with it. Also used no donor parts everything new... Body is very strudy and fit is as good as it gets. Don't know much of FFR , But Brian, Karen and Barry are tops.!!! Very Very Helpful which means a lot.. I have the Big Block with beefed up frame etc... No problems at all everything still in place and no rattles at all after four years...

Venom S · #9 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 06:27 AM

I went with a FFR. Great car. Did a non-donor build.

Bill

coreyc · #10 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 06:33 AM

Thanks guys for the advice. I have ordered a B&B but I have delayed delivery until May. Until then I will collect parts and learn as much as I can about the build. I am planning on a carb 351, disks on all fours, coil overs and tubular arms. I still have to decide on rear end, wheels tires and a few other things. But since I will be dragging out my build over two years I have lots of time to figure evertthing out. I am looking forward to seeing how your build goes and what everyone thinks is the best "setup"

Venom S · #11 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 06:39 AM

Congrats

I have a friend with a B&B powered by a 429. It flies!! Good luck with your build

Bill

tfarhood · #12 (**permalink**) 01-30-2004, 02:13 PM

In your original post you mentioned 15" or 16" wheels. The 15's will look period correct and offer good choices in rubber. 16's will give you a headache when you try to get tires; very few choices. If handling is more important than original looks, go with 17's. If you are not going to go with "Halibrand" style wheels, I would definitely go with 17's since the appearence won't be original regardless of size.

Congrats on you purchase, and happy building