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06-18-2007, 07:12 AM
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If this wasn't so rare, I wouldn't post it...
If this wasn't what I* consider so rare I wouldn't be posting this. A friend has this motor and it is as you see.
427 FORD MOTOR WITH THE CROSS BOLT MAINS AND RARE SCREW IN FREEZE PLUGS. CASTING ON THE BLOCK IS C5AE-H, C5AE-C INTAKE, AND C4AE HEADS. THIS WAS REMOVED FROM A BOAT MANY YEARS AGO AND STORED INSIDE. THE MOTOR IS VERY CLEAN ON THE INSIDE
I can get this motor for 12K- I know, I know but then again!
I think it will be sold within 24 hours but who knows? The distributor has been changed to an FE and as indicated, the motor did come out of a boat years ago.
Ed/DV Combs
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06-18-2007, 07:24 AM
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I'm thinking more like $8,000 since it needs to be taken apart and gone through.
By the way, I used to know some guy named Ed Combs who used this handle, used to email frequently, but then sold his business, his house in Ohio, and moved to the boonies of Pentwater, Mi. and we have not heard from him since  . When you thaw him out tell him mrmustang says hello 
Bill S.
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06-18-2007, 07:36 AM
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Fella-you're still my hero! Ya...8K IF it was in a basket but as far as I know it's ready to drop "IN place" but we know how that goes too! If I only had the "green" it would be mine!
Ed/DV
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06-18-2007, 09:09 AM
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Ed,
Where have you been? Good to hear from you again!
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06-18-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OhBuoy
Ed,
Where have you been? Good to hear from you again!
Tom
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Rumor has it he was in "deep freeze" right next to Walt Disney and just got thawed out from hibernation 
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06-18-2007, 10:16 AM
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Is this a reverse rotation motor?
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06-18-2007, 10:25 AM
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Beat me to it 427sharpe
If you have owned an inboard with twin motors counter rotating motor was my first thought. I know on GM Mercruiser motors the block is the same casting but there are machining differences. EZ way to tell if there are no markings on the motor, the starter if it is still on it will be a reverse rotation. Usually a metal tag under an intake bolt will tell the story.
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06-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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Reverse rotation! Would you have 1 forward gear and 5 reverse? That would be cool! It's hard to shift when you're looking back though!
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06-18-2007, 11:50 AM
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Don,
Actually you would mount the motor in the trunk and then make the rear wheels the ones that steer. Just think of all the trunk space you would have then where the motor would normally go. 
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06-18-2007, 11:54 AM
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06-18-2007, 11:54 AM
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All you have to do is move each spark plug wire up one hole in the firing order on the distributor and it will run in the right direction.
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06-18-2007, 11:56 AM
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Of course that leaves a nasty little problem with the rear main seal PUMPING oil out the back because the seal grooves are facing the wrong direction on a reverse rotation motor. |
06-18-2007, 12:57 PM
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What am I to do with you guys? OK, the motor is standard rotation or so thought. It did come out of a single powered boat and he does have the OEM distributor that the motor came with. He changed distributors to see if the gear would still work ok. The cylinders were prepped for storage and as of last night the motor would turn freely HOW EVER- it may be sold??????
Course it aint sold until moeny changes hands.
ED/DV
PS The family is just fine, I'm still dizzy after three years but what the heck? I owe "you guys" more than I can ever repay and I will never forget!!
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06-18-2007, 01:42 PM
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Ed,
Marine engines came with side oiler casting but were not drilled for it. Hence they are a top oiler engine. Marine engines also came with a cast crank and did not have the LeMans rods (and the LeMans rods are not the greatest) Low Riser heads and a cast iron intake. For not much more you can get from KC an all aluminum engine with a Scat 4.25 crank and Scat H-beam rods and know who built it and what is in it. Just a side note: Marine engines with brass screw in freeze plugs were LH rotation engines in Criss Craft boats.
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06-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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Maybe I am missing something here, I don't see what's rare about that motor. It's just a center oiler marine enigne. Even if it was NOS, I still wouldn't pay 12k for it. I'd much rather have a new motor built with modern performance internals for the same money. I think Keith can build you a nice stroker iron block alloy head 428 based motor for that price. Even just a fresh 427 OEM blocked motor with all good stuff in it wouldn't be much more, if any.
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06-18-2007, 01:53 PM
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...you might be able to pick up that motor for a little less than 12k, Ed.
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/pts/353900919.html
Unless those pics are making the rounds and there is more than one of them....
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06-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Marine Engine
As Tom indicates, the price for what you are getting is probably high... Heads, Crank, Rods, Cam, Intake, espcially Heads and Intake are not what you want to use in a 427 street build.
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06-18-2007, 02:16 PM
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06-18-2007, 02:44 PM
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Holey cow Ed, have you been busy or what?
Too much for the engine.
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06-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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HEY, No bidding war here. Just trying to fill every one in. Guy told me about the motor sent me the picks and here we go! Leave it to computerworks! GR is an hour and a half away, same pictures too ??? Now Tom has me confused maybe I'll have to go see this thing. He insists he thinks it is a standard drives and it does absolutely have the screw in freeze plugs. Coming out of a "Chriscraft" makes absolute since from in this area.
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