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Old 09-21-2007, 08:58 AM
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The reason people carry the BFG's and people still run them is they are one of the few that still come in a 295/50/15 and they are cheap. In a lightweight high HP car they are just worthless because there isn't enough weight on them to make them grip and don't get them wet.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:13 AM
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The problem with the BFGs is that many of them are neither dynamically nor dimensionally round. I was a tire engineer for a major tire manufacturer for many years, trust me on this.

Even a square tire can be balanced, but it still will not roll well.

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I have some for sale in the for sale private party section.

Only reason i took them off was for the look of the Billboards I went to. I will tell you one thing is that the BFGs are a whole bunch smoother than what i got on there now.

Tires have 4k on them. Very good condition.

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Go to National Tire and Battery. I have them and have had no problems. I have the 295 50's on the back and they have done well.
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try tires-easy.com .you might find what you need .
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:22 PM
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I find it interesting that several folks have said (I am paraphrasing) that these tires have a low Cost of Ownership (COO) due to their low initial cost and the fact that they last a long time. At the same time the same folks have indicated they work fine on the street as long as the car is not driven near the limits (which is fine on the street also).

My question is this: Why did you spend so much money, time, energy, and thought on your powerplant, gearing, keeping the car light, etc... if you can't use even the power you bought due to a low performance tire?

Many here have spent upwards of $10000 (or even $15000) on engine alone and bought big power. What is the use if you have a crappy tire? Bench racing?

Your car will be faster (in the real world) with less power and more tire.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:42 PM
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I find it interesting that several folks have said (I am paraphrasing) that these tires have a low Cost of Ownership (COO) due to their low initial cost and the fact that they last a long time. At the same time the same folks have indicated they work fine on the street as long as the car is not driven near the limits (which is fine on the street also).

My question is this: Why did you spend so much money, time, energy, and thought on your powerplant, gearing, keeping the car light, etc... if you can't use even the power you bought due to a low performance tire?

Many here have spent upwards of $10000 (or even $15000) on engine alone and bought big power. What is the use if you have a crappy tire? Bench racing?

Your car will be faster (in the real world) with less power and more tire.
I agree. If you want a good 15" radial tire, you should consider Avon. They cost more than other 15" tires, but they are awesome. If you try them you won't switch back.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:56 PM
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I agree. If you want a good 15" radial tire, you should consider Avon. They cost more than other 15" tires, but they are awesome. If you try them you won't switch back.
Absolutely. The Avon's only seem expensive while you are agonizing over spending so much money on a set of tires.
Once they are on your car you realize what a great deal they are.
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I find it interesting that several folks have said (I am paraphrasing) that these tires have a low Cost of Ownership (COO) due to their low initial cost and the fact that they last a long time. At the same time the same folks have indicated they work fine on the street as long as the car is not driven near the limits (which is fine on the street also).

My question is this: Why did you spend so much money, time, energy, and thought on your powerplant, gearing, keeping the car light, etc... if you can't use even the power you bought due to a low performance tire?

Many here have spent upwards of $10000 (or even $15000) on engine alone and bought big power. What is the use if you have a crappy tire? Bench racing?

Your car will be faster (in the real world) with less power and more tire.

Let's see......faster on the street equals TICKETS, scaring your passengers as well as other motorists. So you spent a bundle on 600hp that you can't use on the street.......... Take it to the track and use track tires. You can mount up the BFG's on another set of wheels and drive like a sane person on the street.

I don't know about you, but continuing to be able to get insurance and not have max points on my license is important to me. This is the same reason squid motorcycle riders without helmets doing wheelies and burn-outs on city streets are bone-heads. Take it to the track!
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Let's see......faster on the street equals TICKETS, scaring your passengers as well as other motorists. So you spent a bundle on 600hp that you can't use on the street.......... Take it to the track and use track tires. You can mount up the BFG's on another set of wheels and drive like a sane person on the street.

I don't know about you, but continuing to be able to get insurance and not have max points on my license is important to me. This is the same reason squid motorcycle riders without helmets doing wheelies and burn-outs on city streets are bone-heads. Take it to the track!
I don't know about NM, but in PA a loss of traction is called careless driving. Putting rock hard tires on your 600hp/575tq car is just asking for problems! Unless of course you're "driving miss daisy," or.. "a sunday driver!"

I'm an aggressive yet defensive driver by nature. Now days you almost ahve to be! There are so many people talking on cell phones, eating, or doing whatever while driving that people aren't paying close enough attention to actually driving! I like to have the reassurance that I can get out of someone's way if I need to! Not spin my flinstone, rock tires and get nailed! I would compare driving a cobra to riding a bike. You can NEVER expect the drivers of other cars to be paying attention or see you. Always on your guard and aware of your surroundings! I want good tires not so I can tear up the streets with my "600hp," but to have a car that is inherently safer!

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Old 09-22-2007, 05:06 AM
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I would agree to the inherently safer,also under All cercumstanses your stickier tires will help you get out of tight spots other drivers may put you in.They are going to out perform the stone age tires of old without a dought.Hey lets face it streets are slick,most race tracks have an adheision far greater,so drivers beware,you get what you pay for goes double for tires..WB3
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do any of you have experience with the cooper cobra tires ? What are they like ? Traction and wear ?

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Seeing as there is so much discussion about tyres with this thread maybe someone can advise me. I have got 9 1/2" x 15" at the back and 7 1/2" x 15' rims at the front which need some work doing to clean them up. I need to replace my 305/50 and 275/50 tyres and the closest match I can find is on Jegs.com. All they have are 295/50 and 265/60. Can I use different profiles together, if not where can I get a matching set or should I opt for new wheels altogether i.e 16" rims which would be easier to get tyres for????

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Old 09-23-2007, 07:39 AM
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I am interested in why so many have BFG's that suck? I have a 550 hp and 50 torq motor. I have BFG's...295 back and 255 front. I have had them balanced once......and drive the streets with no issues, as have some others here! I can tak off pretty quick......and sure, they are not 'race tires, to be sure', but they drive fine...maybe a bit hard, but not bad as i would have suspected! I have had the car for 8 months........now have 7400 miles.......(yes, i drive the sh%* out of it) and have no problems. I like to also have something that keeps me from testing the limits, at least on the street! I know they have limits.....and for me, keeps me sane!!
I would also say....that if I were going to hit the track.....these tires would not be on my car! Avons would, or some 17" tires. But for cruising...they work fine.....and trust me...with the power I have, and when i hit it.........they are ok.......or they would be history by now.
We all have our opinions....and some folks have had issues with these tires......but some folks also have had issues with some motors that others haven't! Just the nature of the beast....literally!
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[color=blue][b][i]I am interested in why so many have BFG's that suck? I have a 550 hp and 50 torq motor. I have BFG's...295 back and 255 front.
Fred, I think the reason you like them is because you only have 50lb/ft tq! Just playin!
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One possible reason some have no issues with BFG R TAs is that it is possible to get 4 round ones on the car. A high performance tire guy told me "you just need to buy 10 to find 4 that are round."
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Question And all of this......

.........just begs the question: so what IS the best replacement for BFG's?

I've heard lots about Yoko Avids, which are no longer manufactured. I've heard that Dunlops are great, but only once or twice. My experience with Goodyears in the past was far less than happy. Has anybody used Hoosiers or Mickey Thompson's with success? - in the rain too? As to the BFG's I can agree with much of what's written above - they have lasted well, they're reasonably comfortable and quiet, they suck on any kind of wet road, their traction is a laughable suggestion, but they have worked reasonably for the past 12,000 miles.

Maybe we're just looking for a 15" tire that just plain doesn't exist any longer. Maybe we need to go to 17" on a standard basis, just for the availability of truly decent tires. Still, I would really prefer to be able to find an all-around, great-in-the-dry-and-decent-in-the-wet 15" that rode well, balanced like they were meant to, and can go 8 to 10K miles before replacement. Guess I want it all. Oh, well.
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Turnpike Boy, you CAN have it all. You just have to be willing to pay for it.
(Well, almost. I'm estimating @ 5000 miles on a set with a lot of road race and drag strip strack time mixed in.)

Avon CR6ZZ

front - 245/60/15 @ $302 ea.
rear - 295/50/51 @ $355 ea.

http://www.sascosports.com/products/...php?type_id=39

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One possible reason some have no issues with BFG R TAs is that it is possible to get 4 round ones on the car. A high performance tire guy told me "you just need to buy 10 to find 4 that are round."
I should have bought a lottery ticket the day I bought the tires. I got 4 out of 4 that were round and they balanced perfectly.
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I've run through lots of tires in the 20 years I've been driving my Arntz. The Goodrich TA's are undoubtedly the worst followed closely by the "Gatorback" tires they used to make. The rubber compound is very hard and is really well suited for heavy vehicles like pickup trucks.

Yes, they're cheap and yes, they're easy to get in the right sizes. But, if you value your Cobra, please get something better. The first time someone pulls out in front of you and you can't stop, the value of the tires will be very apparent. I shop for wrecked cars to rebuild and have seen lots of smashed up replica Cobras and they usually have TA's on them.

Tires-easy.com still have Yokohama Avid S/Ts in stock and so does Summitracing.com. I suggest 255/60/15 in the front and 275/60/15 in the rear. Get them quick before they're gone. I just ordered mine. These are the best, "affordable" tire I have ever used on the Cobra. The Hoosiers give much better grip (in the dry) but wear out in a few thousand miles. The Yokohama's rubber compound is about perfect for maximum grip in dry or wet conditions and long wear. Toyo Proxy S/T tires are good too for very long wear and stopping, but the lateral grip is not in the same ball park.

If you need a better reason to get the Yoko's, Dennis Altoff and Doug Reed took first place in class and fourth place overall on the One Lap of America with these tires on their Cobra. Some of those tracks were wet. That's good enough for me.

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