Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[mrmustang]

Is it a real Cobra, as much as any other that is built after the 60's. Is it being built by a company associated with Shelby America, yes, does that make it any more or less real than the rest, does it really matter that much to you? Honestly. Bottom line, it's your choice to buy or not to buy one vs another, it's your money, be happy with your choice as the rest of us are happy with ours, get in, turn the key, and drive the hell out of it with a smile on your face.......To me, my personal happiness in my personal choice of vehicle(s) is just that, mine and does not require the feedback or confirmation of anyone else for me to achieve the joy of driving it(them)..If you are looking at it from an investment standpoint, forget about it as there are other more profitable places to put your money these days.....


Bill S.

[4pipes]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Is it a real Cobra, as much as any other that is built after the 60's. Is it being built by a company associated with Shelby America, yes, does that make it any more or less real than the rest, does it really matter that much to you? Honestly. Bottom line, it's your choice to buy or not to buy one vs another, it's your money, be happy with your choice as the rest of us are happy with ours, get in, turn the key, and drive the hell out of it with a smile on your face.......To me, my personal happiness in my personal choice of vehicle(s) is just that, mine and does not require the feedback or confirmation of anyone else for me to achieve the joy of driving it(them)..If you are looking at it from an investment standpoint, forget about it as there are other more profitable places to put your money these days.....


Bill S.

Bill, it's too bad we can't make your post a "sticky" at the top of the forums.......would save a lot of typing.

[PatBuckley]

Bill is answering a question that wasn't being asked.

[ENTDOC]

exactly. "is a CSX 4000 car(by definition a real shelby cobra) a kit car" was the question. For that matter was an original CSX a kit car

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

Bill is answering a question that wasn't being asked.

Pat,

Are you sure the underlying question was not being answered


Bill S.

[svobud]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Are you sure the underlying question was not being answered

I just got off the phone with Ms Cleo. She said, "no."

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by svobud

I just got off the phone with Ms Cleo. She said, "no."

Now that was a good one

[Power Surge]

Early 4000 cars (like mine) were "kits" in essence. They were a bunch of parts, sent to authorized Shelby dealers, and built per customer specs.

Current 4000 cars are rollers, built by companies contracted by Shelby (HST, Hi-tech) and sold through Shelby dealers as rollers. You add the drivetrain and title it.

In the basic idea, it's like the 60s. Shelby contracted an outside company to build a car to his specs. Early big block cars were shipped as unpainted rollers to Shelby, and finished there. Street cars, were built all at AC, and shipped over to the US.

The problem with them being "continuation" cars, is that Shelby is continuing to sell a car he sold in the 60s. And being the same car as sold in the 60s, there's no way it could ever meet modern standards and therefore it can't be sold as a legit 2008 Cobra (i.e. running car), so they sell them like everyone else does. You get the car, and an MSO, and you add the drivetrain and title it.

[patrickt]

Personally, I chose ERA over Shelby so that I could avoid the issue entirely.

[1985 CCX]

Are they:
Originals = NO
Replicas of originals = yes
Real = yes (they are really Cobras as you can drive it and park it in the garage)
Continuation cars = yes
Fantastic to own = yes
Thrilling = yes
An experience to drive = yes
Is Shelby himself involved as he was in the 1960's = please....

I love these questions that are really opinions of those that own them. They can never be answered easily; kind of like the question: How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop? The world may never know!

My feeling is that the CSX cars are real Shelby's because they are carrying a CSX# which the owner paid dearly for. Not in a sense real because they are rollers as that would open the discussion for SPF, Shamrock, or BDR cars to be real. All replicas are real in a sense as they only represent different levels of replication of the 1960's original aluminum cars built in England. Some are spot on and some are hot rodded versions of the legend. All are great fun and stress outlets.

I always describe my car as a replication of the original 1965 Cobra built in 1982. Is it real? "Real enough to pass you!" Is it a real Shelby? Nope!
I wonder if I offered Shelby $50k to assign me a CSX#? Bet he would......

[Power Surge]

Let's keep in mind here, that nobody asked if they are real Shelby's or not.