Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[fostereast]

Anthony,

I don't think I'm wrong on either statement; Spend ten minutes on the web trying to figure out if you can call Shelby a US Auto "manufacturer" and you'll see you can't. Saleen is though.

Read the laws for component or "kit" cars for almost any state and instead of looking for the loopholes, look at what they are trying to address and you'll see that your not supposed to have someone like Shelby or anyone else build these cars, sell them to you as a car and have you title, register and inspect it.

Another thought popped into my head. Did Shelby keep the same corporation alive all those years he was MIA in Africa, if not then the new "cobra" rollers are not real in the sense the original corporation made them?

Originally Posted by Anthony

That's not true. It depends upon your state laws.



I know it is actually legal to own, register, and drive on the highways, I believe in every state.

I would say to you, don't buy one. You won;t be happy.



You are wrong about all of this. Shelby is a manufacturer. Ever heard of Series 1 cars? Sheby is like Saleen in a way. Both modify mustangs, and each has their own car, Series 1 vs S7. Shelby however also sells 1965 type Cobra's as well.



It's not a marketing ploy. It's the market that is demanding original spec cobra's, CSX4000 vs Kirkhams. So the Kirkhams are a slap in the face as well? I don;t think it's a slap in the face for anybody. If anybody feels slighted, it's their own problem.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by fostereast

Anthony,

I don't think I'm wrong on either statement; Spend ten minutes on the web trying to figure out if you can call Shelby a US Auto "manufacturer" and you'll see you can't. Saleen is though.

Read the laws for component or "kit" cars for almost any state and instead of looking for the loopholes, look at what they are trying to address and you'll see that your not supposed to have someone like Shelby or anyone else build these cars, sell them to you as a car and have you title, register and inspect it.

Another thought popped into my head. Did Shelby keep the same corporation alive all those years he was MIA in Africa, if not then the new "cobra" rollers are not real in the sense the original corporation made them?

I think you're wrong. I've probably spent at least 10X the amount of time searching the web about shelby cars, and possibly presently more than you ever will. I don't care abut the registration laws of states that don;t have interest to me, but I know states differ immensely. If you would have spent any time on the web, you would have seen that Shelby is/was an auto manufacturer, although I donlt know if the new GT500's, Shelby GT's, etc have Shelby listed as the manufacturer, nor do I care. I know that the series 1 cars did.

What it boils down to is what you believe in. You can believe whatver you want to believe. If you believe the world is flat, not round, thats fine with me. I'm not there to change your mind, just to put another contrasting opinion on the web, so people who haven't made up their mind yet can make their own decision. You'll never change my opinion, and I;ll know I'll never change yours.

buy a factory 5.

P.S. I own a classic mustang as well. Infact, the tranny in my cobra is out of a '67 390 stang (short nose-small spline-wide ratio) if you know what that means.

[fostereast]

We can agree to disagree, I apologize if I made this sound personal, that's not my intent. I'm aware of the Series 1 Shelby built for a while, it's unclear why he stopped but it's never just one thing that spoils a business, so it was probably lack of sales, engineering and manufacturing costs, and US regulations for safety and emissions.

Shelby is probably not building something at this time that they are getting or could get certified by the US government that they can sell as a car, so in that sense they are not an automobile manufacturer (That's the definition I am using)

We probably should not argue about who spends/wastes more time on the web it could get us both in trouble.

I have researched the kit car laws in a number of states but not all of them. The point I am trying to make is I do not think any of the states allow you to register a "new" kit car that you bought from a factory already turned into a car, because then it's not a "kit" car, it's a manufactured car that is subject to the US Government's laws regarding safety and emissions. As some kit car builders try and give you more and more of a completed product it could get problematic in the eyes of the law. That's why Shelby does not sell new "cars." They sell parts or parts, put together to some extent.

Dave and Mark Smith at FactoryFive are great guys. I've met Dave a number of times and he truly is a great person. I would love to build one of their cars someday. Probably not a Cobra though, I like ERA.

My Mustang has an Automatic in it, so I don't know much about the Toploader other than the one you have makes yor car more enjoyable to drive on the street as opposed to the close ratio, and I hope I have the fortitude to put a Richmond in mine but there is such a center of gravity around using a Toploader that I may end up with the same transmission as you in my Cobra.

Originally Posted by Anthony

I think you're wrong. I've probably spent at least 10X the amount of time searching the web about shelby cars, and possibly presently more than you ever will. I don't care abut the registration laws of states that don;t have interest to me, but I know states differ immensely. If you would have spent any time on the web, you would have seen that Shelby is/was an auto manufacturer, although I donlt know if the new GT500's, Shelby GT's, etc have Shelby listed as the manufacturer, nor do I care. I know that the series 1 cars did.

What it boils down to is what you believe in. You can believe whatver you want to believe. If you believe the world is flat, not round, thats fine with me. I'm not there to change your mind, just to put another contrasting opinion on the web, so people who haven't made up their mind yet can make their own decision. You'll never change my opinion, and I;ll know I'll never change yours.

buy a factory 5.

P.S. I own a classic mustang as well. Infact, the tranny in my cobra is out of a '67 390 stang (short nose-small spline-wide ratio) if you know what that means.