buckshot racefab side pipes

[carmine]

Need sidepipes. Please respond if you have buckshot side pipes.
-how is the manufacturing quality
-any rattling sounds or crackling on off throttle deceleration
-do you have 3inch core or 2.5inch

[Woodz428]

Their website is http://www.buckshotracefab.net/

[craigayl]

Carmine

The pipes you are refering to were designed by Ron Roberts and previously marketed through Buckshot. The same pipes are now marked through www.fireflyperformance.com You can see the pipes, options and prices at the new web site.

I have these pipes with a 3" mufflers on my car. No rattles, they look fantastic and I picked up 40+ HP with my 514. You can see my dyno sheet at the Firefly web site

Give me a shout if you have any more questions

Craig craigayl@comcast.net

[barnwidow]

In regards to the post from craigayl@comcast.net, he most certainly has his wires crossed. You can view the original pipes at buckshotracefab.net My husband and I also have quite a few patent pendings for our products.My husband and Ron designed the pipes in our shop in Carleton, MI. This was a partnership on the superformance sidepipes as posted by craigal in 2004-2007 however.......... The dyno sheet that craig is referring to was definately done with his car, however, my husband hand built the pipes that were on that car for those runs. And Craig is fully aware of this fact. They were not Firefly Performance pipes, Firefly was just created in 2007. These are the same pipes that are on Craig's car today. All of the Firefly Performance sidepipes are direct copies of Buckshot Racefabs original stainless steel sidepipes. Our shop sits on 5 acres in the town of Carleton. Ron and my husband were talking at one time about building a shop to house several Cobra cars on our property. Ron lives in a subdivision with a 2 car garage which at the time had no tools to speak of. Our shop is fully equipped with the tools required to fabricate anything. My husband is a certified welder and is a machine repairman/journeyman with Ford Motor Company. He is also a certified master mechanic. We have been building streetrods, racecars, customs etc. for over 35 years. Buckshot has been in existence since the early 70's

You need to ask yourself this question: "Why did Craigayl post from 2004 until 2007 touting the partnership and results of Buckshot Racefab/Dean and Ron and all of a sudden everything is Firefly and Ron". Why do you think this is? My husband and I know the real reason and so does Craig and Ron.

[Danr55]

Most interesting exchange. Kind of makes you wonder what's up with these folks.. Sure do like the looks of the side pipes though.

[barnwidow]

Thank you so much Dan

Barnwidow

[StreetSnake]

I have a set up BUCKSHOT sidepipes. I've been to Dean's shop and was very happy with his work. He finished mine back in Mar/Apr of this year. If you would like I can send you some pics. The nice thing is, Dean can accomidate anyone's wishes. He did a custom set of stainless steel headers when he did my sidepipes. The SS pipes look tremendous but you have to stay up on polishing as you would with any SS product. I'll warn you that there are alot of "bolt-on" products out there. To get the best performance you really need to get custom pipes for your particular application. Dean can do this at competitive pricing, I know because I researched this before deciding on Buckshot.

[gary osborne]

I got mine from Ron as Craig said above. I worked with Ron, since as a SPF owner, he came up with the idea of creating something specifically for the SPF cars and did the design work. It took him a good year, maybe two in design and testing. I believe Craig had one of the very early sets of pipes (maybe the first) and touted them strongly. Craig is one of the few people in this world who I would trust with everything I have so I followed his lead. I had one of the first one piece pipes and am very happy with them. They look and sound great and added meaningful performance to my 514. I have never heard of Dean before so I have no opinion about him. Now it WAS Buckshot that Ron was partnered up with and you can probably get Ron's design from Buckshot. I don't know what caused "the break up of the love afair" but obviously there was a separation and Ron took his design to his own company. If I was looking for another set of pipes, I would seek Ron out again. I can't imagine going to anyone else but that is just me.... and as I said, I never heard of dean so that is not meant to be a slap against him. Good luck with whatever pipes you buy.

[barnwidow]

Thank you for the reply StreetSnake. She sure did look good at London. Will include pics on updated website soon.

Barnwidow

[barnwidow]

In regards to Gary Osborne, you my friend have been misinformed as well. These pipes were the results of Ron Roberts showing Dean his brand new SPF and asking what Dean thought. Dean's response was, "It's a really nice piece but, the pipes are lacking". This is how it all began. Ron asked Dean if he thought he could do better and Dean's response was, "I can do way better", and thus the partnership began with Dean building the pipes at our shop. Craig Aylsworth's pipes were hand built by Dean at Buckshot Racefab. Dean has built many other peoples pipes and many other parts for the cobra. Ron's design is Ron and Dean's Buckshot design. Unfortunately only one person is getting the credit when there should be two people getting credit ( Buckshotdean) also. Thanks for the reply although someone else is trying to take the credit. We are pleased to hear that you are happy with Buckshot Racefab pipes.

[gary osborne]

"thus the partnership began with Dean building the pipes at our shop....... Unfortunately only one person is getting the credit when there should be two people getting credit ( Buckshotdean) also. Thanks for the reply although someone else is trying to take the credit. We are pleased to hear that you are happy with Buckshot Racefab pipes.[/quote]"

Barnwindow,

Well thanks for the speedy reply....BUT....I don't think anyone is trying to "take" the credit unless it is you on behalf of your husband. You admit that there was a partnership. I know someone other than Ron actually did the crafting / welding. If Dean both designed and crafted the pipes....where is the partnership? Based on your description, wouldn't that make Ron a customer....not a partner?

I posted MY experience in response to a question. MY experience was good based on MY business dealings with Ron..... I have never spoken to or heard of Dean and therefore cannot say anything good or bad about him or his work. I CAN highly recommend Ron because I found him to be honest, forthright to do business with, helpful and the pipes were great except for a few minor blemishes around the welds that I decided I could live with. If I wanted some more pipes like I bought, I would go to Ron. That is MY answer to the gentleman who asked the question.

So I am NOT misinformed regarding MY expereince and MY opinion. As for the business relationship between your husband and Ron, I really could not care any less and have no dog in that hunt.

[craigayl]

What a hoot… Leave home for the day and come home to a barrage of emails and phone messages asking “what’s up on Club Cobra?”

Well, now that I have read, I hesitate to even respond. I really hate this kind of banter on and otherwise terrific forum, but feel I must because I feel that I have been personally attacked and Club Cobra members have been left with a lot of confusing information.

6 weeks ago I posted to a request from Carmine “The pipes you are referring to were designed by Ron Roberts and previously marketed through Buckshot. The same pipes are now marked through www.fireflyperformance.com”... A statement of fact..

To which, barnwidow now proclaims “craigayl@comcast.net, he most certainly has his wires crossed”

Not sure which wires I have crossed. Having known Ron Roberts for many years and of his automotive, performance, related background, I first confronted Ron with the question in 2003 on how we could improve the exhaust, for more performance, on my Superformance Mark III with a 514ci engine. Throughout 2004 I conversed with Ron during the design phase of these pipes. When completed, Ron delivered a set to me and I bolted them on. I also did sound and dyno testing for Ron, as did other Superformance owners. I wrote a check for the pipes to Ron, so which wires are crossed certainly has me confused…. Yes, I was aware that Ron hired Dean Beatty to do some of the welding, as I was aware that Ron was dealing with many suppliers of, stainless steel, fasteners, gaskets, polishing and even shipping. Also that some time in either 2005 or 2006 the pipes were advertised on buckshotracefab.com web site which now appears to be closed. I sure don’t see how any of this changes my original post or why I would be accused of having my “wires crossed”.

I am also confused about the statement of where Ron lives, as if that has anything to do his ability produce the best stainless steel pipes anywhere. I guarantee Ron uses only the finest suppliers/fabricators in the country and is not doing this work in his back yard.

Craig

[danc30]

Can either company make them for a Hurricane? They are a slip fit at the header and I will be Swain-Tech coating them. I will want the race muffler and, if possible, 2 piece.

I can take any measurements needed but don't want to send the headers off for a template unless they can be returned quickly.

Let me know.

Dan

[Ron Roberts]

Dan,

At the present time I only specialize in Superformance aftermarket products. Main reason is I have this brand of car to use as a checking fixture which eliminates the need for a car to be left at my location. Other brands of replica cobras are not in my scope of bussiness.

I will leave the hacking and slashing to others, especialy the people who do not have a reference car to work with.

Thank you for your interest,

Ron Roberts - Firefly Performance Products

[Ron Roberts]

A quick response to Gary Osborn's and Carmine's posts:

The pipes on Gary's and Carmine's cars were manufactured by my supplier and shipped to their locations. These are Firefly Performance Pipes and are the original design not just another copy.

Gary and Carmine, thanks for your compliments and bussiness,

Ron

[greg schroeder]

I put the Buckshot Racefab side pipes on Superformance 2040 with Roush 427R-095(small block 427).

Video Buckshot Racefab Sidepipes at drags

Time slip of above video, easy start only 1.7 60ft

image of Dean Beatty built Buckshot Racefab side pipes

Dyno at wheels, corrected
Roush 427R-095, Buckshot Racefab Sidepipes, Pro-systems carb, Olthoff headers, 1/2 fuel line, mechanical fuel pump.

When I set out to get new side pipes the goal was more power and maybe some good looks too. The side pipes look pretty good. Along with the side pipes I changed headers, air filter, carb and fuel delivery. All together it added about 75 wheel HP and put the car into 130+ mph trap speed with easy start 10 second passes.

As to the account of obtaining the side pipes I knew when I started a Cobra is a custom application. I went with the two piece side pipe with 3 inch louvered core. I was willing to take some time to end up with my desires. I'm reasonably sure Dean Beatty did my pipes in the end after a few things were changed. The visible welds are very nice. Dean seems to be an old school drag racer with the desire to make things better. Good guy all around, and he understood what I wanted and made sure it ended up correct. It took some time, but I was satisfied in the end.

Oh, as to cleaning here's what I did for about 7,000 miles. Wipe them off with damp microfiber when pipes are cool. I also gave them a bath in CLR twice. It takes away some of the darker gold color the pipes take on. I never drove in rain, so they stayed pretty nice.

[emberglo66]

That was a year ago. $4.05 here today in Houston. Spent $105 this morning filling my F250 hog.

740AM for Rush

and no. no room left unless her stuff gets thrown out.

Got to go, driving my overpriced "kit" car to Meineke for new side mufflers.

[sumyred1]

godzilla,
I did let it go and you attacked me so...you remind me of the guys at the track that challenge a persons car and ask to have their motor torn down to see if it is legal. Let me rephrase myself and please refer to post 18. If you have any further questions refer to post 18 again. I do not get upset so that is not an issue and this just makes me wonder how people coexist in society? Once again have a nice day and I will be busy organizing all my shoes tonight so don't bother me.

[MEATMASTER]

Let if go NOW then...

Good grief, it's like discussing side pipes with a bunch of old grey women.


MEATMASTER

[barnwidow]

Dear danc30, as my husband mentioned last night in his private message to you, we can take your dreams and turn them into reality. We here at Buckshot Racefab are a non-denominational fab shop. We work on streetcars, streetmachines, streetrods, customs, racecars, pro-street cars and anything else that comes our way. All my hubands race chassis's have been sema tested and approved. His chassis's have been as fast as 6.17 seconds @ 243 mile per hour in the quarter mile and that was in 1976. My husband's qualifications speak for themselves. He can also build pipes for any car out there regardless of any engine/chassis combination. He has been in many publications where his header fabrication has been featured on cover cars etc.