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View Poll Results: Money aside, which chassis would you choose?
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Original 4" Chassis with Original Tubular suspension
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Original 4" Chassis with Kirkham Billet Aluminum Suspension
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New Kirkham Billet Chassis with Billet Pushrod Suspension
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Original 3" Chassis with Leafspring Suspension
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06-05-2008, 03:56 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: NorCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A Blue Car
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Good points being made here and there is more to it.
A pure design methodology would carry through the entire car, including the body, shape, wheel base, track, and all the bits, etc. In other words, why wrap a state of the art chassis with a period authentic 40+ year old wrapper? Why not carry your talented design sensibilities further to inform all aspects of the car?
On another note,
What most people misunderstand about the JBL is that it is not trying to be a cobra replica. It does resemble one but far from a replica. The car was designed all at once, meaning, Richard didn’t start with a cobra body and try to fit his ideology under it. The chassis was designed and a cobra styled body to fit it. Not everyone’s cup of tea but to me it’s a blend of styles and ideas that I can appreciate. But as I always tell folks, if I ever build a “cobra” it will be a Kirkham, period.
Incredible work David, as usual. I think your copper cobra was truly a pure expression of materials and methods. Quite beautiful too.
Talk soon, John :>
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06-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF GT40P-2265/393W, KMP318 (PROJECT!!!!!)/CSX478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmarsey
Good points being made here and there is more to it.
A pure design methodology would carry through the entire car, including the body, shape, wheel base, track, and all the bits, etc. In other words, why wrap a state of the art chassis with a period authentic 40+ year old wrapper? Why not carry your talented design sensibilities further to inform all aspects of the car?
Talk soon, John :>
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John, my point exactly.
I like your JBL too. 
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06-05-2008, 04:08 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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I actually do understand what a JBL is, but of course if it resembled anything other than a cobra you would not be on this site, so it is a cobra of sorts. But , that is also my point. A kirkham with billet frame and push rod suspension exceeds my personal definition of a cobra, at that point it is a car that resembles a cobra. That is not what most people buy a Kirkham for, it is what everone that buys a JBL wants.
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06-05-2008, 04:10 PM
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3 inch leafspring frame with correct steel suspension pieces. 289 leafspring cars handle incredibly well -- especially if you use OEM spec springs.
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06-05-2008, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmarsey
Good points being made here and there is more to it.
A pure design methodology would carry through the entire car, including the body, shape, wheel base, track, and all the bits, etc. In other words, why wrap a state of the art chassis with a period authentic 40+ year old wrapper? Why not carry your talented design sensibilities further to inform all aspects of the car?
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Thank you for your kind words!
While I can't comment on the Skunkworks, the billet chassis is a preliminary exercise for another car. Let's just say, Thomas and my dream car--or the crowning jewel of our combined automotive talents, experience, and dreams. It has nothing to do with Cobras--and everything to do with what a modern car of today could and should be. One day I hope to see it drive down the road.
David
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06-05-2008, 06:54 PM
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"While I can't comment on the Skunkworks, the billet chassis is a preliminary exercise for another car."
You guys aren't going to be making a "better" version of the Shelby GLH are you?
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06-05-2008, 06:56 PM
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You'll have to waterboard me to talk!
David
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06-05-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by David Kirkham
You'll have to waterboard me to talk!
David
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It would ruin you. You would never think about "aluminum" bodies again.
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