Ron61: I wasn't responding to you and candidly I don't look down on you nor do I think you are an idiot. I don't even know you or have anything against you so I'm not sure what you are talking about or why you said what you did. But, whatever.
While Mr. Lee Holman was there, he was quite young at the time and I believe he was at that stage more a spectator. Shelby was there also but as a team owner and company owner who had an accomplished racing history/resume' including a win at LeMans and had developed the already legendary Cobras. How can you compare the two? While I wasn't there it is true that I learned what I learned by reading various sources.
While CS didn't accomplish what he did all by himself and clearly had help from many talented drivers and automotive designers working for SAI, Mr. Holman makes it sound like Holman & Moody helped make Shelby's successes as outlined in my post come to fruition. This is simply not true. Holman & Moody, Alan Mann and the like didn't work to help Shelby. They were competing teams. Holman & Moody nor Alan Mann helped SAI. With the talent SAI had at the time they didn't need Holman & Moody or Alan Mann. If they did then Mr. Holman needs to tell us specifically what Holman & Moody did to help SAI and Shelby acheive all their accomplishments. They certainly didn't help SAI win the World Manufacturers Title, they certainly didn't help develope the Daytona Coupe Cobra, they certainly didn't help in the Daytona Coupe's victory at LeMans in 1964, they certainly didn't help Shelby put his GT40's amoung the 1,2,3 finish at LeMans in 1966 or help Miles come close to the triple crown that year. They certainly didn't help Shelby and Gurney and AJ Foyt win LeMans overall in 1967 with the Mark IV. Holman & Moody certainly didn't develope the Cobras of any iteration.
What did I say that wasn't understandable.
Xl8or: I read what Holman said. As usual you are just parroting what Holman said because it dilutes Shelby's accomplishments dispite the fact what Holman said is misleading as I pointed out above. But hey, why let the facts get in the way. Same old same old at CC.
4Pipes: What makes me think you don't know much about SAI/CS history? Simple. It was the question you asked. Anyone who didn't know CS view and sentiment vis a vis Ferrari or the Corvette back in the 1960s can't be that conversant with Shelby history. As a Ferrari owner/or former owner, a Vette owner and a Kirkham owner I would have thought you would have grasped the meaning of my statement. I sure you have books on the Cobra and Shelby. Go read them and I'm sure it won't take long before you'll get it.
My point is very simple. Shelby is not perfect. I too have issues with some of the things he has done. But he is not all bad and has done alot of positive things also. Those positive things are never discussed. The man is continually knocked here. While any of his behavior is fair game the good certainly doesn't get equal play. In fact it hardly gets any play. Thats my point.
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