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[Excaliber]

Yup, i are a pretty smart fellow and love to play with string...

[Madmiles442]

[REAL 1]

Xl8or: Once again you are off the mark. Post count does not equate with knowledge. Your repetitive proof.

Post count does equate, however, with experience of whats been said here by and large and the majority sentiment that has come through loud and clear over the years by the "body politic" of CC concerning Shelby. Not all here mind you but the majority of posters over the years.

The recent thread ridiculing the man over his new deodorant venture is proof in point. Why ridicule him for it. None of you have tried a business venture or tried to market an idea? Last I checked this is a capitalist society and those with the moxy and creative effort and capital to make it work are entitled to profit from their success or lose from their failures, at least until Barbra Boxer, Nancy Pelosi and the far left push us to socialism, their ultimate goal. If you knew by way of a Crystal ball that Pit Stop deodorant would be a wild success and it was your idea I'm sure none of you would give it a go. Nah. :LOL Why don't you ridicule Paul Newman for his salad dressings or other celebritys for the products they put their name to. Theres plenty of them. While your at it, lets not stop there, those of you in business marketing a products or service, please post the products or service you market and your business ideas so we can ridicule you and knock you for trying to make money off it or pursuing your business idea. Seems fair to me. No? Oh, sorry, I forgot. This is CC. Ridicule only flows one way. Sorry. LOL.

I am neither defending Shelby or looking to knock him. Just defending the facts.

None of the facts I've stated above have been refuted by anyone citing authorative text as opposed to CC revisionist history mob mentality. Mann helped out in Europe with 2 to 3 Daytona Coupes. Shelby American still fielded its own team at LeMans and with their second in class win together with their wins in the States sealed the World Manufacturers Title in 1965. No where in some of the texts I looked at did I see any reference to Holman & Moody "assisting" SAI in 1965 or 1966 or anywhere or anytime else. Feel free to enlighten me with facts and references. Again in 1965 and 1966 H&M was actually competing with SAI for Ford $$$$. My take of Lee Holman's statement is that there is apparently no love loss between SAI and H&M and as far as I understand there never was any love loss, that it was inaccurate and designed to diminish SAI and Shelby's accomplishments in the Cobra era and to seek credit place more than deserved where it really wasn't due at least based on my readings. Again, if I'm wrong, I be happy to admit it. Just give me the authorative published references and what they say. I'll take a look.

Oh, and some of my references for my statements and position on this thread Shelby, The Man. The Cars. The legend. by Wallace A Wyss. ; Carroll Shelby's Racing Cobra by Dave Friedman and John Christy; Cobra, The Real Thing by some guy named Trevor Legate.

Oinie: You are a genius. Don't let them tell you otherwise. LOL

[Juggernaut]

Real 1,

It's now July 22nd., as I posted back on the 17th, man, you REALLY need to relax & just let it go already.

Have a good night.

[RodKnock]

Evan, I've been on this Forum for a long time, whether as a guest lurker, member lurker or just searching for information. I've seen posts/threads dating back to this site's inception. Nonetheless, it's not clear to me why I would need to prove my opinion.

You find ridicule and hatred for CS on this site, and there may be some. This is your perception of reality. My perception of reality is different. Please don't challenge my perception based on a useless statistic as post count.

I also know lawyers very well and they all like to argue, so this may be your motivation. I don't know. In any case, I'm/we're all just spitballin' here (from "A Few Good Men").

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I also know lawyers very well and they all like to argue, so this may be your motivation. I don't know. In any case, I'm/we're all just spitballin' here (from "A Few Good Men").

Motivation? We don't need no stinkin motivation to argue!

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Motivation? We don't need no stinkin motivation to argue!

Yeah, what he said.

However, I do like that little saying "We're all just spitballin from here".

Fair enough.

FYI Rodknock: I've been around here since well..about 2001 or so. My post count is actually at least double since I was operating under a different user name years ago whatever that was and lost my previous post count. I don't really care about post counts. I changed user names to protect the innocent. I've seen ALOT here in the way of CS bashing over the years. ALOT.

[CobraEd]

This quote comes to mind:


Who is this that darkeneth my counsel with words without knowledge


God talking to Job


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[Bugman]

Between this topic and the can for sale on eBay there are currently 7 pages of posts dedicated to deodorant! Man this place is the "pits"

Oh what did I start???

[jwd]

Let's give this topic a rest and start telling lawyer jokes

[REAL 1]

Not true Ed. I'm someone.



I'm all for joke telling but lets include some doctor jokes, accountant jokes and other jokes directed at others too. Lets be fair. Oh,.... there I go again, I forgot...this is CC.

[CobraEd]

In Virginia, all you gotta do to be a lawyer is pass the bar exam. No law school needed. VA see's it for what it's worth. . . . .

Precedent and LexisNexis lookups. Certainly not like science or medicine.


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[xlr8or]

So Rodney how's that Kirkham? Getting some miles on it yet?

[khansmith]

When I started lurking/reading/posting here, I would say I didn't notice that much grief for Shelby relative to what I see now. I did see a tipping point with the SAAC drama started to unfold. Even with just that limited perspective in regards to my membership to this site, I didn't see an inflammatory intent with the deodorant post; just fascinating history that I am happy to know about a very savvy and ballsy entrepreneur.

Anyway, I have to say that I have learned more in this post about the racing history that surrounded CS (As I have been solely focused on his achievements) than I would have expected from a deodorant topic. Now I know there are some other great racing icons to learn about during the cobra period that deserve my attention.

I am constantly impressed with the information/history that the members possess. Thanks!

[Excaliber]

ANY celebrity that at some point in his career was a spokesperson for "Pit Stop" would be taking some ribbing over it. In this case it just happens to be Shelby, I see ZERO connection between the product and Shelby bashing in that regard. It's just plain funny.

George Foreman for "Pit Stop", STILL funny!

[Bugman]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

ANY celebrity that at some point in his career was a spokesperson for "Pit Stop" would be taking some ribbing over it. In this case it just happens to be Shelby, I see ZERO connection between the product and Shelby bashing in that regard. It's just plain funny.

George Foreman for "Pit Stop", STILL funny!

Thank goodness he didn't endores "Prepartion H" or things would have gotten real sh!ty!!

[Trevor Legate]

I had a good laugh when I read the earlier post from the Real Deal - fortunately I had better things to do with my day, so I decided not to pen my lengthy riposte. Let's just stay with the lawyer bashing, I can't be bothered....and life's too short anyhoo.

[clayfoushee]

Yes, and it's drivel not dribble.

[REAL 1]

Well, Ed, since your so smart why not sit for the bar? You should pass since its just Lexis Nexus stuff and all.

Maybe you could tell us just how many took the bar and passed without law school?

Every one hates lawyers till they need one. Even authors.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Every one hates lawyers till they need one.

Isn't that the truth.