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Old 07-21-2008, 02:10 AM
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Dan,

I can't answer your question with any figures right now but give me a month and I can. My cousin who bought my Cobra is building various models of these generators out of stainless steel and he is hooking them to everything from his daily driver to his farm equipment. So far he hasn't had enough time to really get any good data figures, but he did say the the two pick ups run smoother. He wants to drive them for a month at least and check his mileage and everything against what it was before to see just what if any gain he gets. And being a mechanic, he will also inspect the motors at various intervals. He is using them on everything from a stock 4 cylinder to a beefed up 350 in his Nova, and of course on the diesel motors in his farm equipment. That will take longer, but he said he should have some figures on the one pickup and car as they are his and his wife's daily drivers and get a lot of miles put on them.

Edit To Add: I am not promoting this as suggested by some of the following posts. I do know for a fact that this cousin has ran his farm equipment on a variety of different fuel mixture additives that he has made, Ie Ethenol, used cooking oil, and has had success with it. He never got double the mileage but said that it averaged about 1/4th more with no power loss or engine problems. He is just trying this. If it works good, if not all he has lost is a little time.


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Complete bs

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:06 AM
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Total nonsense!! There have been numerous "water as fuel" schemes promoted lately but they're all about as worthless as whale doo-doo. All
this schemes are based on using electrolysis to generate "Brown's Gas"
which is simply the oxygen and hydrogen mixed together after water
moloecules are broken down by electrolysis. The Brown's Gas is then
simply used in an automotive engine like propane or natural gas are by
the use of a mixing valve to meter the gas into the induction stream of
the engine. Hydrogen is better viewed as an energy transfer medium than
an energy source of and in itself since it takes considerable energy to
extract it from water molecules. Hydrogen can certainly be used as a
motor vehicle fuel but apart from the energy necessary to generate it
from water, the other problem is storing sufficient quantities of it in a
motor vehicle to give the vehicle a reasonable range. Most systems
in use these days either use compressed gaseous hydrogen at very high pressure (300 bar or more) or cryogenic storage where the hydrogen is stored
in liquid form in insulated dewars.
The "water as fuel" scheme promoters would have you think that their
contraptions can electrolize sufficient quantities of water into hydrogen
"on the fly" to make either high pressure or cryogenic storage unnecessary,
but if this was the case why is it that only SPAMmers and backyard crackpots
are promoting it!

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Old 07-21-2008, 05:27 AM
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I didn't even link on. I've seen these things in the past, they always pop up when fuel is pricey or scarce. Part of the "believeabilty" comes from the fact that H2O is part hydrogen. Hydrogen has an enormous potential for fuel...HOWEVER, with current laws of physics it takes more energy to breakdown the water to it's elements than the energy released. Remember that water is one of the most stable items on earth. The more stable something is the more energy it takes to break it down. That's also an important thing to consider with all the "hydrogen" solutions being put forth. It isn't a workable solution yet. They will take a billion $$ of your tax money to verify that it isn't though....wouldn't you...like to help...an energy like this...LOL
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Total nonsense!! There have been numerous "water as fuel" schemes promoted lately but they're all about as worthless as whale doo-doo. ....Fred
But how do you really feel?????
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