National Speed Limit

[lineslinger]

I don't try play cop and clog up a lane because the guy behind me wants to run 12 mph faster than I do. Just move over and let them pass. Why is that such a big deal? If I see them coming in my rvm, from as much as a quarter mile away, I get the over and let them by. Hell, they get to pay the ticket not me. The guy that sits in the left lane and won't move the hell over is the one who is going to cause the accident.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

I don't try play cop and clog up a lane because the guy behind me wants to run 12 mph faster than I do. Just move over and let them pass. Why is that such a big deal? If I see them coming in my rvm, from as much as a quarter mile away, I get the over and let them by. Hell, they get to pay the ticket not me. The guy that sits in the left lane and won't move the hell over is the one who is going to cause the accident.

What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.

Originally Posted by lineslinger

I don't try play cop and clog up a lane because the guy behind me wants to run 12 mph faster than I do. Just move over and let them pass. Why is that such a big deal?

Because it's likely that the AH wants to pull back in front of me and slow down for the upcoming exit, instead of just slowing down behind me, and the other car in the slow lane, and waiting an extra 3-4 seconds to reach his exit. Most drivers are ignorant, especially the fast driving ones driving vettes. That's why I drive my POS SUV in the fast lane at about 5 mph above the limit, and don;t move over. If there is someone infront of me driving 5 mph slower than the limit, I just change lanes to the slow lane and pass them. WHAT A BIG DEAL. And it gets me when they have to pull out from a side street right in front of you, when there are no cars behind you, and then turn off the road after going 0.5 miles. What a bunch of idiots. I like it best when the truckers line up side by side, up a hill, going 40 mph with a speed limit of 65.

Like I said, GREAT THREAD. We need more of them like this.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Anthony;865503]What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.

You're wrong too.

[HI Cobra]

Why anyone would want to sit in the left lane stacking up cars behind them is beyond me.
Life is too short to play these games. Just get over and let them
by - it doesn't hurt. I love it when a runner passes me, like I said earlier,
he can run point and flush the radars. If I'm not in a hurry I don't have a
problem driving in the right lane. I don't think you will ever catch me going
below the speed limit either, conditions permitting.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=HI Cobra;865540]Why anyone would want to sit in the left lane stacking up cars behind them is beyond me.
Life is too short to play these games. Just get over and let them
by - it doesn't hurt. QUOTE]

Not to mention it's the law.

If headlights are gaining on me,it's either DPS or a someone who is flyin'.Either way,i get over long before they're near me.It's called courtesy AND common sense.

[Anthony]

This thread died too early.

Originally Posted by HI Cobra

Why anyone would want to sit in the left lane stacking up cars behind them is beyond me.

I'll tell you why. Just 2 days ago, I'm driving along in the middle lane (my mistake already) of a 6 lane hiway, 3 lanes each direction. I'm doing about 70mph with a limit of 65 mph, coming up on a slower medium flatbed, I guess going about 55 mph or so. I see a car approach me from behind in the fast lane, I guess 75 mph plus, and he passes me. What I didn;t realize what that he wanted to get off at the current exit, and obviously pulled right in front of me and slowed down, when there were no other vehicles behind me, and tried to make it in front of the flatbed, but couldn't, so slowed even more 50mph to pull behind the flatbed, and take the off ramp, with the flatbed continuing straight in the slow lane. I had to jam my brakes, knock off my cruise, and swerve in the fast lane to avoid this AH. I then reset my cruise, and this time I stayed in the fast lane. Let other AH's be inconvienced.

It's not the slower moving vehicle in the fast lane causing the accidents, it's all the impatient speeding AH's behind him that cause the accident, of which I'm occasionally guilty of myself.

And, if there is alot of traffic, it really doesn't make a difference. You'll get there maybe a minute later. Give me a break.

US hiways are no autobahn.

I'll continue to drive exclusively in the left lane. Just drive around me.

[HI Cobra]

Uh, what kept you from then going to the fast lane to go on by him on your
merry way?

[CHANMADD]

I think the biggest problem is actually that we are all so bloody selfish instead of being more courteous and friendly. In Taiwan I noticed that when the traffic stops at night, everyone turns their headlights off so as not to annoy the person in front.It was wierd to see, but really cool.
I honestly believe that if everyone stuck happily to the rules IE: Keep Right..pass left, the traffic would flow so much beter and safer albeit at 20 miles faster than the posted limit....which would probably be raised because it would be safe to do so!!!
John

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Anthony;It's not the slower moving vehicle in the fast lane causing the accidents, it's all the impatient speeding AH's behind him that cause the accident, of which I'm occasionally guilty of myself.

And, if there is alot of traffic, it really doesn't make a difference. You'll get there maybe a minute later. Give me a break.

I'll continue to drive exclusively in the left lane. Just drive around me.[/QUOTE]

1)You are completely wrong.
2)You are breaking the law.
3)What part of "it is safer to have ONE faster car manuevering then 20+ cars manuevering are a slower one" doesn't your feeble mind comprehend?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CHANMADD

I think the biggest problem is actually that we are all so bloody selfish instead of being more courteous and friendly. ---
I honestly believe that if everyone stuck happily to the rules IE: Keep Right..pass left, the traffic would flow so much beter and safer albeit at 20 miles faster than the posted limit....which would probably be raised because it would be safe to do so!!!
John

The first part is exactly true. The second part is half right. The other problem, more of a problem, is people speeding in the fast lane, cutting just in front of people in the slower lane to get off an exit, sometimes almost stopping in the fast lane to try to get over to the slow lane for an exit, causing everybody to brake, backing up traffic.

I like it best when all lanes are crawling, and some idiots are forcing their way changing lanes to try to get ahead while your moving about 10 - 15 mph.

I am just so tired of people cutting in front of me, braking for an immediate exit, I just find that when in medium traffic, staying in the fast lane allows me to go at a relatively steady, calm pace. When I come up to a slower vehicle, I just go around them, whenever it's safe to do so.

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

1)You are completely wrong.
2)You are breaking the law.
3)What part of "it is safer to have ONE faster car manuevering then 20+ cars manuevering are a slower one" doesn't your feeble mind comprehend?

Bill, you need to calm down or you're going to pop one of those little vessels in your head. Take a deep breath, and say 10 times, I will relax, I will relax, etc.

I don't know how old you are, but when you become an adult, you will realize that patience will keep you enjoying life and living longer.

Until then, I give you permission to go around me.

[rschoeni]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I'll continue to drive exclusively in the left lane. Just drive around me.

I'm surprised to read a statement like that on a website devoted to automobile enthusiasts.
_____
bs

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Anthony

This thread died too early.



I'll tell you why. Just 2 days ago, I'm driving along in the middle lane (my mistake already) of a 6 lane hiway, 3 lanes each direction. I'm doing about 70mph with a limit of 65 mph, coming up on a slower medium flatbed, I guess going about 55 mph or so. I see a car approach me from behind in the fast lane, I guess 75 mph plus, and he passes me. What I didn;t realize what that he wanted to get off at the current exit, and obviously pulled right in front of me and slowed down, when there were no other vehicles behind me, and tried to make it in front of the flatbed, but couldn't, so slowed even more 50mph to pull behind the flatbed, and take the off ramp, with the flatbed continuing straight in the slow lane. I had to jam my brakes, knock off my cruise, and swerve in the fast lane to avoid this AH. I then reset my cruise, and this time I stayed in the fast lane. Let other AH's be inconvienced.

It's not the slower moving vehicle in the fast lane causing the accidents, it's all the impatient speeding AH's behind him that cause the accident, of which I'm occasionally guilty of myself.

And, if there is alot of traffic, it really doesn't make a difference. You'll get there maybe a minute later. Give me a break.

US hiways are no autobahn.

I'll continue to drive exclusively in the left lane. Just drive around me.

So you have encountered someone who is not courteous. Someone who is obviously an AH. And you decide that makes it right for you to be non-courteous to other drivers. The driver you complained about is an AH for a small percentage of the time he is on the road, just the small percentage of time it takes him to get over to the exit lane. I agree that is definitely wrong to drive the way he does and is dangerous. Your choice is to hog the left lane and let others pass you on the right. That could make you an AH for potentially 100% of the time you remain on the highway. The other day I was at the end of a line of about 15 cars stuck behind a left lane hog. I kept a cool head and left a good safety gap between the car in front of me. But the 14 cars infront of me were not. Brake lights are flashing up and down the line when the cars are too close. They were all riding each others bumper, creating a real safety hazard. Imagine if there was an accident, potentially all 14 cars in front of me could be involved. All because there is someone hogging the left lane at a speed that the other drivers consider slower than their daily average commute speed.

So you observe one AH and decide you should be a worse AH? That is really immature and extremely selfish on your part.

I used to be a somewhat aggressive driver when I was in my 20s and had a long commute. I'm in my 40s now, have a shorter commute and try to drive somewhat off of rush hour. I try to be courteous. I get out of the way of faster drivers. I appreciate it when slower drivers get out of my way. They don't always do that.

When your plan in life is to intentionally be non-courteous to other drivers, I just don't what to think of a person like that.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

So you have encountered someone who is not courteous. Someone who is obviously an AH. And you decide that makes it right for you to be non-courteous to other drivers. The driver you complained about is an AH for a small percentage of the time he is on the road, just the small percentage of time it takes him to get over to the exit lane. --- The other day I was at the end of a line of about 15 cars stuck behind a left lane hog. I kept a cool head and left a good safety gap between the car in front of me. But the 14 cars infront of me were not. Brake lights are flashing up and down the line when the cars are too close. They were all riding each others bumper, creating a real safety hazard. Imagine if there was an accident, potentially all 14 cars in front of me could be involved. All because there is someone hogging the left lane at a speed that the other drivers consider slower than their daily average commute speed.

Those other 14 people were AH's as well, 100% of the time they are on the road. If there was an accident, it would also be their fault as well, maybe more so. It's good that you keep distance, as I do. When I come up on a slower car, and he doesn't move, I pass him safely on the right. There's no need for me to "enforce" anything to the slower driver, as many people on here feel compelled to do.

When the police start enforcing courtesy driving issues, then maybe it'll all be straightened out. But, I can tell you, when the traffic is medium to medium heavy, I will be in the left lane. My plan in life is to live and enjoy it, and not be involved in an accident by some AH cutting in front of me, trying to cross multiple lanes to get off of an exit, or crossing many lanes, dodging traffic to try to get 5 car lengths ahead, which is very often on a highway with multiple/many exits.

It's also appears to me that you still are very annoyed when slower people don;t get out of your way, although you say you don't drive aggressively.

If I'm in the left lane, and you come up on me, I give you permission to pass me on the right as well.

Stay Cool.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Anthony

What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.



Because it's likely that the AH wants to pull back in front of me and slow down for the upcoming exit, instead of just slowing down behind me, and the other car in the slow lane, and waiting an extra 3-4 seconds to reach his exit. Most drivers are ignorant, especially the fast driving ones driving vettes. That's why I drive my POS SUV in the fast lane at about 5 mph above the limit, and don;t move over. If there is someone infront of me driving 5 mph slower than the limit, I just change lanes to the slow lane and pass them. WHAT A BIG DEAL. And it gets me when they have to pull out from a side street right in front of you, when there are no cars behind you, and then turn off the road after going 0.5 miles. What a bunch of idiots. I like it best when the truckers line up side by side, up a hill, going 40 mph with a speed limit of 65.

Like I said, GREAT THREAD. We need more of them like this.

What is so confusing about the highway traffic signs that read "slower traffic keep right".
I usually run the limit and sometimes 5-8mph over depending on traffic conditions and I will sometimes make a right lane pass if it is open and safe to do so.

I try to maintain one car length for every ten miles per hour I am traveling as a buffer between myself and those in front and behind me as conditions permit

What I will do in consideration of those around me, is move over and let the faster traffic pass, especially when it is heavy.

I just don't feel compelled to advocate my own personalized interpretation of traffic law self righteousness upon those I am sharing the highway with.

There will always be those that display a blatant lack of awareness as to the conditions around them, the volume of traffic, and display zero sense of driving etiquette.

Certain ones just don't give a damn.

My way on the highway, right guys?

You can see them plodding along in the left lane with a half mile of cars stacked up behind them.
They are trolling for road rage and many do it intentionally

Those who lay claim to that specific notion that the highway is their own to dictate upon and all others on this road be damned scare me.
I do my best put as much distance as I can between myself and them because it is that self righteous ego that will, sooner or later, get someone else's family member hurt.

[Bobcat]

Lineslinger , you hit the nail on the head with your reply . I used to drive 50,000 to 60,000 miles/yr for business and saw a perfect example of the consequences of "teaching someone a lesson " first hand just outside of Charleston , WV . There was a car running about 50 mph in the left lane on the Interstate ( yes , he shouldn`t have been doing that ) and really had traffic in a knot . Someone finally passed on the right when that lane opened up and cut back in front of the slow car and slammed on their brakes . The pileup sent several people to the hospital when the slower car being " taught a lesson " panicked and locked up their brakes . I can also tell some tales about traveling I 95 .
Like you , I will either get by as soon as I can or sometimes even pull off until things sort out .... I used to run circle track ( dirt ) and didn`t mind being 6 " off the car in front of me at 100 + mph as I knew he knew what he was doing ... but the highways scare the hell out of me because of the stupidity/incompetence of most drivers .

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Bobcat

Lineslinger , you hit the nail on the head with your reply . I used to drive 50,000 to 60,000 miles/yr for business and saw a perfect example of the consequences of "teaching someone a lesson " first hand just outside of Charleston , WV . There was a car running about 50 mph in the left lane on the Interstate ( yes , he shouldn`t have been doing that ) and really had traffic in a knot . Someone finally passed on the right when that lane opened up and cut back in front of the slow car and slammed on their brakes . The pileup sent several people to the hospital when the slower car being " taught a lesson " panicked and locked up their brakes . I can also tell some tales about traveling I 95 .
Like you , I will either get by as soon as I can or sometimes even pull off until things sort out .... I used to run circle track ( dirt ) and didn`t mind being 6 " off the car in front of me at 100 + mph as I knew he knew what he was doing ... but the highways scare the hell out of me because of the stupidity/incompetence of most drivers .

See...the trick is to gradually take it down to about 40 or so, then you speed up quickly after creating a line of folks behind the cruiser you had to pass. Everyone thinks he's the one who slowed down so much.

I've done it a few times to the errant trucker who pulls out in the left lane because he's going 1 mph faster than the trucker he's trying to pass (happens all the time on 99). After ten miles of following the basturd, I'll pull over to the right and slow him down for awhile as well. I'm sure I'm the subject of a few comments on the CB, so every now and then I'll pull out the portable radio I carry and give the other side of the story. Typically, the independents agree with me...it's usually the company haulers who pull that crap because of the trip recorders won't let them haul ass to make up time.

I don't perceive this as road rage so much as simply being the same kind of annoying basturd as the other guy. I drive 30-35k a year, so I have lots of opportunities to minister my brand of religion.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Anthony

What a great thread.

I actually agree with terry.



Because it's likely that the AH wants to pull back in front of me and slow down for the upcoming exit, instead of just slowing down behind me, and the other car in the slow lane, and waiting an extra 3-4 seconds to reach his exit. Most drivers are ignorant, especially the fast driving ones driving vettes. That's why I drive my POS SUV in the fast lane at about 5 mph above the limit, and don;t move over. If there is someone infront of me driving 5 mph slower than the limit, I just change lanes to the slow lane and pass them. WHAT A BIG DEAL. And it gets me when they have to pull out from a side street right in front of you, when there are no cars behind you, and then turn off the road after going 0.5 miles. What a bunch of idiots. I like it best when the truckers line up side by side, up a hill, going 40 mph with a speed limit of 65.

Like I said, GREAT THREAD. We need more of them like this.

Strange, I get out of the left lane for faster traffic coming up behind me and I have never been tail gated.

The person hogs who the left lane is just as much a self-righteuous AH as the person riding his/her bumper. As far as I'm concerned, it takes 2 self-righteous AHs for tail gating to occur. If you hog the lane ON PURPOSE, you are an aggressive driver, just looking to annoy others by imposing your own personal speed limit on them. Perhaps some anger management treatment is in order?