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08-21-2008, 06:04 AM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Originally Posted by CBattaglia
As for minor things like handling ...
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Say what?
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08-21-2008, 06:23 AM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,924
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Originally Posted by Cashburn
Say what?
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Handling. You know, like when you ask it to go around a corner... and it chooses not to.
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08-21-2008, 06:59 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Goshen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Gary Edwards Racing 460
Posts: 444
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Originally Posted by Cashburn
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Joke of course.... For me handling is most important. If you cant turn or keep the tires from spinning in a cobra, then you might as well go and buy a GTO or some other powerful barge....
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08-21-2008, 07:27 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Greenwich CT.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Roush Ford Coyote #1156
Posts: 139
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Bdr
Excaliber & Patrickt not sure if you guys can read but the debate is about Backdraft & Superformance . ERA is a nice car especially when ERA builds it. I looked into getting one but their shop was scary & it was going to take 2 years if they could find all the parts .Since you guys are talking do you have any knowledge of owning or driving a Superformance or a Backdraft . I drove both cars ! MY friend has an ERA & it is a beautiful car . He loves crusing with us on the parkway when he is in 4TH gear diong 4000 RPM. So if a Backdracft is a Wallmart Cobra what do you think of Factory Five ? Why don't you guys come to the run & gun and see how the wallmarts perform on the track . You guys do know that Cobra's were race cars right ? By the way I think Wallmart sells the 1970 GM brakes that are on your ERA .
BDR GT 40 Roush 342 R GT
67 GT 500 Roush 402 IR
65 Corvette Coupe 327 / 350
05 AMG SL 55
BDR # 656 Roush 402 SR
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08-21-2008, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMHINC
Excaliber & Patrickt ... So if a Backdraft is a Wallmart Cobra what do you think of Factory Five?
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Ernie says they come from K-Mart.
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08-21-2008, 07:38 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sacramento,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra-less
Posts: 271
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jdogginla,
If you are in CA, I have a Backdraft for sale. I am in the Sacramento area. PM me.
Thanks,
Al
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08-21-2008, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Wilton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Performance Cars Venom 427 Keith Craft 408 Stroker
Posts: 317
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Driving a BDR, your gonads will reach their limit before the car does
Seriously, if there is someone here who has driven a BDR and says the handling is bad, I respect their opinion, but I would imagine that particular car must have been really out of alignment or had some other problem. It's just not a complaint that you see frequently associated with these cars, which are known to handle well and have proven that on the track.
I think if you read the formus, you will have all the information you need to make the right choice. Good luck.
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08-21-2008, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Gilbert,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft #90, 351w,Tremec 3550, SB100 SOLD
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I can see this thread is going downhill fast! Handling problems? Walmart? What the heck is this all about? Sounds like sh_t stirring for no apparent reason.
Back to the original thought.
Both Superformance and Backdraft are great cars. I bought a Backdraft, because at the time is was many thousands of dollars cheaper than the Superformance, and I thought it handled and rode much better. (part of the cheaper aspect is fit, finish and paint. I have worked to correct all three in my car) The Superformance I drove had a huge 460 engine in it and seemed very front heavy and understeered like crazy. Maybe with a lighter engine it would have been more neutral?
In any case, I love my Backdraft But, I would have taken a Superformance as well, if I had a bigger budget. Another factor is at the time, there was a local Backdraft dealer near me, with the closest Superformance dealer an hour and a half away. Now, I realize that is no big deal.
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08-21-2008, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Jersey Shore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SPF#2572, 427 S/O 2X4
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Do yourself a favor, and creat a spreadsheet listing the base cost for each car as well as the options. After you add up all of the BDR options that come stock with the SPF, you will find that their cost is not that far apart. Then the decison comes down to fit, finish and paint. Just remember it is your choice, and the only thing that matters is what you are happy with.
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08-21-2008, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Jose CA,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF_R_/BRG/FRBoss302/327CI/FordEFI/Under_Car_Exh/
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I personally like the SPF, but i would go to a few cruise ins and talk with owners.
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08-21-2008, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Greenwich CT.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Roush Ford Coyote #1156
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Don't forget to add the cost of an upgrade to 17 " wheels on the SPF. I don't think you can get Goodyear Eagle's so it's a tough comp? Also the polished sidepipes if you like that look. Agin they are both great cars .Personally I like the 315 rear tires and the wide look of the BDR from the back and the car hooks up . Also I did not want a soft top which is included in the SPF price .
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08-21-2008, 12:26 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Greenwich CT.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Roush Ford Coyote #1156
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forgot to say it but drive both cars. The check list & spreadsheet is also a good idea . Which ever car you get take a good look at the Roush motors. This is my 2nd Cobra & this one has the Roush 402 SR and it's awesome. 500 HP and a 2 year warranty no questions asked !
BDR GT 40 Roush 342 R GT
67 gt 500 Roush 402 IR
BDR Cobra Roush 402 SR
65 Corvette Coupe 327/350
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08-21-2008, 12:32 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,441
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Obviously, we're watching this thread...let's not have sparks fly.
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08-21-2008, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
Posts: 658
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If your looking for a turn-key Cobra replica, I would suggest you look at the low mileage used ones available. This would give you the opportunity to drive the exact car you would be purchasing. Often a low mileage used will have some of the bugs worked out that can occur with these cars. It may help you avoid the situation I am in with my BDR. That dang shimmy that has happened since mile one and continues to happen with 8k miles. I've balanced the tires more times that I can remember with no improvement.
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08-21-2008, 04:59 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMHINC
Don't forget to add the cost of an upgrade to 17 " wheels on the SPF. I don't think you can get Goodyear Eagle's so it's a tough comp? Also the polished sidepipes if you like that look. Agin they are both great cars .Personally I like the 315 rear tires and the wide look of the BDR from the back and the car hooks up . Also I did not want a soft top which is included in the SPF price .
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I have 315/17's on my SPF and I have seen 335/18's.
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08-21-2008, 07:53 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: McKinney,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #867 gone....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkipB
The Superformance I drove had a huge 460 engine in it and seemed very front heavy and understeered like crazy. Maybe with a lighter engine it would have been more neutral?
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Yes, considerably. On the street or especially on the track.
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Originally Posted by Gatorac
.....That dang shimmy that has happened since mile one and continues to happen with 8k miles. I've balanced the tires more times that I can remember with no improvement.
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Congratulations, it has been confirmed that you do, in fact, own a Cobra.
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08-22-2008, 10:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Santa Maria,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2001 SPF, Sold =(
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Keep in mind that if you live in California (which I know you do) you have to deal with the SB100 registration issue. Right now.. DMV referee stations have been closed thanks to the state budget cuts. Getting a car with a current SB100 would be a great start for a new Cobra owner, and simplify the ownership process... no matter what brand you purchase.
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08-29-2008, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: West Suburbs of Chicago,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft#357, 392CI Ford Racing, 459hp, 455ft/lbs , TKO 500, 3.43 Gears, Ceramic Coated Headers, Victor Jr. 750cfm, 17in Halibrand wheels, Sterling Gray/Silver Stripes, Gray Leather, Nitto NT05
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Time to stir the pot in this debate:
I have a Superformance Dealer 30 minutes from my home and after driving the SPF and the Backdraft, I just paid to have a Backdraft shipped across the county and am now the proud owner of BDR #357. It handles like a dream, the ride is great and it corners like it is on rails. Fit and finish is fantastic. I have nothing against Superformance, but there is no way in the world Superformance is a better handling car - just no way - the tracks prove that out over-and-over. I could have had either one, drove them both, and liked the look and handling of the Backdraft better. It really comes down to personal preference. Put the same engine in both, take them on the track with the same driver and you will see that the Backdraft handles better, drive them on the street and they both feel great. Fit and finish are similar. Superformance might be a little better, but not for the price. You truly can't go wrong with either and unfortunately it comes down to personal preference. Sometimes things that are more expensive are not better, they are just overpriced. I love the SPF, just like the BDR a bit more.
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08-29-2008, 10:23 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Glendale,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft #395 from Vintage Motorsports; Valley Ford Specialist 487 FE with a TKO600
Posts: 498
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Powershift1038
Keep in mind that if you live in California (which I know you do) you have to deal with the SB100 registration issue. Right now.. DMV referee stations have been closed thanks to the state budget cuts. Getting a car with a current SB100 would be a great start for a new Cobra owner, and simplify the ownership process... no matter what brand you purchase.
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You would not be able to get an SB100 until January 2009 anyway, so no issue here...this actually might work in your favor, as you will have a legitimate reason to get additonal Temporary Operating Permits.
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08-29-2008, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
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Quote:
keep in mind that the SPF does not use parts from other manufacturers that were not intended for a Cobra. I believe BDR uses Toyota front end?? (someone correct me if I am worng)
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You are wrong.
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