Nascar '09

[Ron61]

Just read this on the news. Chrysler is going to shut down for a while but won't pull out of NASCAR. With the few teams Dodge has, it seems to me that would be a good place to save somemoney.

http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...e=businessNews

Ron

[Bartruff1]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Just read this on the news. Chrysler is going to shut down for a while but won't pull out of NASCAR. With the few teams Dodge has, it seems to me that would be a good place to save somemoney.

http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...e=businessNews

Ron

That is very informative and interesting but I think it is still whistling past the graveyard. I am sure the man is telling you what he thinks is the truth but I wonder if he can see the forest for the trees. The Golden Rule is that " He that has the gold makes the rules " and the people that are being ask to provide the gold (The taxpayers/bond holders/stockholders) are going to have to be convinced that there is a positive cost benefit associated to racing and I believe that will be a tough sell. It is my understanding that it is the Dodge Dealers that provide the funding ? They may be in bigger trouble than the Company . It will be interesting to see what happens. I remember siting and watching in disbelief when the World Trade Center came down on that sad day. It was just a few weeks ago that the spokesmen for Fanny/Freddy/Leman Bros/Citi/Goldman/Madoff.. etc were telling everyone that things were ok....well, they weren't

[Silverback51]

One interesting view.



http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/16/i...376x1200979994

[Bartruff1]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

One interesting view.



http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/16/i...376x1200979994

are always interesting but tend to be on the far left of what are called environmental wacko's. Car racing is a product and there is market for auto racing and it won't go away, but it may not be the current NASCAR product. As you know, Silverback, the big three have withdrawn their support from stock car racing several times in the past and it survived. I can think of several series that bet their survival on the continued support of the auto manufactures and they have had serious trouble when that support left, it is a failed business model. Stock Car Racing is a pretty large industry and will survive but most likely not in it's current state.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

One interesting view.

Same could be said about your avatar.

[coosawjack]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

One interesting view.



http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/16/i...376x1200979994

I REALLY like your avatar....Silverback and I thought that was what you were talking about (One interesting view) at first!!!

Nascar will survive but they too will see A LOT of changes!!

[Ron61]

Originally Posted by Bartruff1

That is very informative and interesting but I think it is still whistling past the graveyard. I am sure the man is telling you what he thinks is the truth but I wonder if he can see the forest for the trees. The Golden Rule is that " He that has the gold makes the rules " and the people that are being ask to provide the gold (The taxpayers/bond holders/stockholders) are going to have to be convinced that there is a positive cost benefit associated to racing and I believe that will be a tough sell. It is my understanding that it is the Dodge Dealers that provide the funding ? They may be in bigger trouble than the Company . It will be interesting to see what happens. I remember siting and watching in disbelief when the World Trade Center came down on that sad day. It was just a few weeks ago that the spokesmen for Fanny/Freddy/Leman Bros/Citi/Goldman/Madoff.. etc were telling everyone that things were ok....well, they weren't

It wasn't that long ago that Bill France was on TV telling everyone that NASCAR had no problems at all and even if the Big 3 completely withdrew it would not affect them in any bad way. That last part could be partly true as the cars are no longer even a reasonable copy of a Ford, Chevy, Etc. But the money they pour into NASCAR for R&D would be missed and I have seen places last year that they didn't show the grandstand in places because of empty seats. I think there will be more of that this year. People have more important things for what little money they have now than paying an exorbitant price to watch a bunch of spec cars run around in a circle. I hate to see any business go down, but I don't feel that NASCAR is vital to the country. I do believe they like the Big 3 will survive, but in a much different way than what we have seen in the past.

Ron