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Old 12-25-2008, 07:35 AM
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Wouldn't Hurricane have their hands in the same jar? It could have just as easily been them or any other manufacturer named in the lawsuit.
Yes, Hurricane would be guilty as well. But Hurricane isn't who Shelby has chosen to sue at the present time now is it? I don't think I singled out FFR, but this thread is about the lawsuit against them, not Hurricane. And if Hurricane were sued, my opnion wouldn't change. Frankly, I was shocked when entering this sport a few months ago to learn that ALL of these companies were building replicas and not paying royaties. Of course, I did not know Shelby had abandoned his rights to the design. If anything Hurricane is MORE liable because they pulled their car from a real CSX, as opposed to the FFR...who knows where that body came from. Maybe it was intentionally "altered" so as to avert future liability.

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It amazes me how some people can write things like this and actually know where the ON switch is on their computer.
It amazes me how some posters misconstrue other posts in order to pick a fight, especially when another person's views don't align with their own. Merry Christmas.

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Ever try to buy a Lamborghini or Ferrari replica? Don't bother. Lamborghini/Audi and Ferrari/Fiat put all the manufacturersd OUT OF BUSINESS. Every one of them got sued for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. They were told they could fight the legal battles or they could surrender their molds and destroy their inventory.

I can't believe ol' Carroll has been so accomodating all these years.

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when entering this sport a few months ago to learn that ALL of these companies were building replicas and not paying royaties.
I think this in itself is part of the problem, you have only been around "this sport" for a "few months", you have not spent the time to do any research on the subject. If you had done a little research, you would know that Shelby abandoned the Cobra and in several interviews (both in print and now available on video) even praised the replica makers for "keeping the fire burning" (his words circa 1987/1988 interview with Car & Driver or Road & Track reprinted in several sister publications over the years). If you did a little more homework, some a little closer to modern times, you would know a lot more and understand where the rest of us are now coming from.

I'll leave it at that for now, the moral of my post is, before you spout off with an opinion so strong, you are better off to do a lot of research on the subject and not make rash posts based on your extremely limited knowledge on the subject.

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Yup... you're right. After reading this again, I don't see how I could have thought you singled out FFR or misconstrued the intent of your post.
You did misconstrue the intent of my post. Entirely.

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you would know a lot more and understand where the rest of us are now coming from. Bill S.
You would know a lot more if you would recognize that this thread involves a collective set of opinions, and that we don't all have to share "Where you are coming from." Before you spout off against someone you don't know, maybe you should recognize that these posts are not intended to be personal. My posts are aimed at commenting on the lawsuit, yours are now aimed at assailing me for posting something you think to be unfounded or in disagreement with you. I have done enough research to back up my comments, and prior to posting I was well aware of the history. While I may have only joined the sport of Cobra replica ownership a few months ago, I have been involved with Ford, Shelby, these cars, lawsuits and contract law since 1982. I am qualified to state my opinion. But we are all impressed that you know more than me and were tough enough to call me out on it.

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You would know a lot more if you would recognize that this thread involves a collective set of opinions, and that we don't all have to share "Where you are coming from."
My post was not meant as a personal attack, however, my writing style does take getting used to, so I'll publiclly apologize if I bent your nose out of place with my personal opion based on what you have written to date. As for you view on I.P. (Intellectual Property) rights, again, Shelby abandoned (his words of old come back to haunt him now) the Cobra, the Shelby Mustang, and anything to do with either/or back in 1972 (again his words on record, not mine). As such, he lost the lawsuit in regards to trade dress, as such there is no license agreement needed by any manufacturer of a like and kind shape. Again as you put it, this is not opinion but case law. I shall not get in to a pissing match with you as it does neither of us any good. You do not know me, I do not know you (or do we seeing that we have been around these cars for as long as we have), let's leave it as a civil disagreement and leave it at that.

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