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01-06-2009, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Stewartstown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hi Tech vintage 427 s/o
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HiTech put one in for a guy named Ed West a while back and according to info. that I have it was not an easy swap! As a matter of fact Jay Leno consulted with Tom DiAntonio befor putting the cammer in his Cobra
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01-06-2009, 11:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,448
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Bill Malone put one in his CSX 4000 and is now on the road...beautifully done.
He wanted something just a bit nastier than the tunnel port he had in his last Cobra. 
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01-07-2009, 09:51 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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There was a polished Kirkham getting a Cammer installed at the same shop where my car stayed during the Summer. The owner of the shop mentioned that the engine required mucho mods to fit.
Here comes the wishful thinking: If one came along and the price was right, then I might have to install one some day. Yea sure, sure.
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01-07-2009, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Chicago 'Burb,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1245 w/ 1966 427 SO
Posts: 1,167
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the SOHC and how it differs from the dimensions of a Side Oiler? I saw one that was installed in a Galaxy once, but it was hard to get an idea of how big/wide the engine was due to the large size of the space a Galaxy has under it's hood. I've only seen pics of one installed in a Cobra and it looked to be MUCH larger (on par with a 385 series) that an FE.
-Was I just seeing things?
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01-07-2009, 06:45 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TerrysSPF
Does anyone know the dimensions of the SOHC and how it differs from the dimensions of a Side Oiler?
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I don't vouch for the accuracy, but here goes:
ENGINE FAMILY WEIGHT (LBS) WIDTH LENGTH HEIGHT
289/302 Windsor 460 24 29 27.5
302 Boss "Clevor" 500 24.5 29 28.5
351W Windsor 525 25 29 29
351C 335 (Cleveland) 550 25.5 29 29
351M/400 335 (Modified) 575 26 29 29
332-428 (ex.SOHC) FE 625 27 32 29
427 SOHC FE 680 32 34 30
429/460 (ex. Boss) 385 720 27 34 29
429 Boss 385 635 30 34 30
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01-07-2009, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Chicago 'Burb,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1245 w/ 1966 427 SO
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Patrick- Thanks for the post, but I'm not sure if I can agree with it!
Is it saying that a 460/385 series is the same width as a 427FE???
-That can't be right! I can easily change the plugs in my Side Oiler!! 
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01-07-2009, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TerrysSPF
Patrick-
Is it saying that a 460/385 series is the same width as a 427FE???
-That can't be right! I can easily change the plugs in my Side Oiler!! 
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I know, I know. I am merely the messenger.
Here's another table from the Mustangs & More site:
http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/E...imensions.html
Ford Engine Dimensions Engine Family LxWxH in inches, without carburetor. Weight in Lbs.
221-260-289-302 29 x 24 x 27.5 460
Boss 302 29 x 24.5 x 28.5 500
335 Series 351 Cleveland 29 x 25.5 x 27.5 550
351 Windsor 29 x 25 x 29 525
FE Series 352-390-406-410-427-428 32 x 27 x 29 625
Boss 429 34 x 30 x 30 635
385 Series 429-460 34 x 27 x 30 720
427 SOHC 34 x 32 x 30 680
4.6L SOHC or DOHC 36 x 36 x 44 600
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01-07-2009, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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01-07-2009, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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PatrickT is pretty good with his specs. You have to shoe-horn any BB into a Cobra. Let's face it...there's not alot of room. Wrestle with a Cammer or a 385? Same work, and I'd take the Cammer anyday. Look at the bright side: with a Cammer, you can get to the plugs real easily!!
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01-07-2009, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
Bill Malone put one in his CSX 4000 and is now on the road...beautifully done.
He wanted something just a bit nastier than the tunnel port he had in his last Cobra. 
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Start a thread about Tunnel Port vs Cammer? I have had both. Two of the greatest 7k+ rpm BB motors I know, if that's what you plan to do with them. Kind of a shame to see folks putting these in "cruisers". They were built for the assault on the Grand Nationals back in the day...
My 2 cents.
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01-07-2009, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,448
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Start a thread about Tunnel Port vs Cammer? I have had both. Two of the greatest 7k+ rpm BB motors I know, if that's what you plan to do with them. Kind of a shame to see folks putting these in "cruisers". They were built for the assault on the Grand Nationals back in the day...
My 2 cents.
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Hey...look at the crazy basturds with 482ci Shelbys in their Cobras. 
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01-08-2009, 09:34 AM
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Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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What can I say? Guilty as charged......
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01-08-2009, 01:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Aren't we all. 
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01-08-2009, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: White Plains,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA140, ERA 267, ERA GT2038, ERA FIA 2045, ERAGT2077 ERA2893000EXP
Posts: 1,117
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Peter at ERA built an SOHC 427 some years back (in order to sell the motor he built a car around it... or something like that. That was his story at the time). It was a tight fit requiring modifications to the frame and to the foot boxes. It also required a small alternator and other modifications to fit. The motor had a partial gear drive and you could here the gear whine from a block away...
Jim
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01-08-2009, 01:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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They're neat/impressive motors but too big for the Cobra IMHO. Too heavy too. Fast in a straight line but if you think a BB has a disadvantage vis a vis a SB in handling then its two fold for the SOHC.
Besides its not historically correct.
They have a Wow! factor for those seeking peoples choice at the Mom and Pop car show but I wouldn't want one in a Shelby, but hey when has anyone here agreed with me anyway.
Takes care.
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01-08-2009, 02:08 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Sure is easier changing spark plugs though.
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01-08-2009, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: White Plains,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA140, ERA 267, ERA GT2038, ERA FIA 2045, ERAGT2077 ERA2893000EXP
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I should add that Peter's 427SOHC looked and sounded impressive, but it did not feel as fast, nor handle as well on the street as a good 428 with the added weight in the nose.
Jim
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01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Holden
I should add that Peter's 427SOHC looked and sounded impressive, but it did not feel as fast, nor handle as well on the street as a good 428 with the added weight in the nose.
Jim
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Hey, if someone with a nice SOHC wanted to trade me straight up + for my 600-mile aluminum 482, I would one very happy person. Original or not. 
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01-08-2009, 04:05 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
Posts: 1,731
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Even Jay Leno's not safe on his own thread!
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01-12-2009, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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I have run across a blue Cobra twice on the freeway in Orange County, CA. The license place reads "CAMMER". I rode along side for a while, and it sounded good. He sure didn't like sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic!
Does this belong to anyone here?
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