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Old 01-06-2009, 01:36 PM
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HiTech put one in for a guy named Ed West a while back and according to info. that I have it was not an easy swap! As a matter of fact Jay Leno consulted with Tom DiAntonio befor putting the cammer in his Cobra
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Bill Malone put one in his CSX 4000 and is now on the road...beautifully done.

He wanted something just a bit nastier than the tunnel port he had in his last Cobra.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:51 AM
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There was a polished Kirkham getting a Cammer installed at the same shop where my car stayed during the Summer. The owner of the shop mentioned that the engine required mucho mods to fit.

Here comes the wishful thinking: If one came along and the price was right, then I might have to install one some day. Yea sure, sure.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:21 PM
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the SOHC and how it differs from the dimensions of a Side Oiler? I saw one that was installed in a Galaxy once, but it was hard to get an idea of how big/wide the engine was due to the large size of the space a Galaxy has under it's hood. I've only seen pics of one installed in a Cobra and it looked to be MUCH larger (on par with a 385 series) that an FE.
-Was I just seeing things?
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:45 PM
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the SOHC and how it differs from the dimensions of a Side Oiler?
I don't vouch for the accuracy, but here goes:

ENGINE FAMILY WEIGHT (LBS) WIDTH LENGTH HEIGHT
289/302 Windsor 460 24 29 27.5
302 Boss "Clevor" 500 24.5 29 28.5
351W Windsor 525 25 29 29
351C 335 (Cleveland) 550 25.5 29 29
351M/400 335 (Modified) 575 26 29 29
332-428 (ex.SOHC) FE 625 27 32 29
427 SOHC FE 680 32 34 30
429/460 (ex. Boss) 385 720 27 34 29
429 Boss 385 635 30 34 30
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Patrick- Thanks for the post, but I'm not sure if I can agree with it!

Is it saying that a 460/385 series is the same width as a 427FE???
-That can't be right! I can easily change the plugs in my Side Oiler!!
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:12 PM
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Is it saying that a 460/385 series is the same width as a 427FE???
-That can't be right! I can easily change the plugs in my Side Oiler!!
I know, I know. I am merely the messenger.

Here's another table from the Mustangs & More site:
http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/E...imensions.html

Ford Engine Dimensions Engine Family LxWxH in inches, without carburetor. Weight in Lbs.
221-260-289-302 29 x 24 x 27.5 460
Boss 302 29 x 24.5 x 28.5 500
335 Series 351 Cleveland 29 x 25.5 x 27.5 550
351 Windsor 29 x 25 x 29 525
FE Series 352-390-406-410-427-428 32 x 27 x 29 625
Boss 429 34 x 30 x 30 635
385 Series 429-460 34 x 27 x 30 720
427 SOHC 34 x 32 x 30 680
4.6L SOHC or DOHC 36 x 36 x 44 600
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:17 PM
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FWIW, Summit Racing calls both of them at 27".
http://www.summitracing.com/streetan...C0C4D5C6417%7D
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PatrickT is pretty good with his specs. You have to shoe-horn any BB into a Cobra. Let's face it...there's not alot of room. Wrestle with a Cammer or a 385? Same work, and I'd take the Cammer anyday. Look at the bright side: with a Cammer, you can get to the plugs real easily!!
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Bill Malone put one in his CSX 4000 and is now on the road...beautifully done.

He wanted something just a bit nastier than the tunnel port he had in his last Cobra.
Start a thread about Tunnel Port vs Cammer? I have had both. Two of the greatest 7k+ rpm BB motors I know, if that's what you plan to do with them. Kind of a shame to see folks putting these in "cruisers". They were built for the assault on the Grand Nationals back in the day...
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Start a thread about Tunnel Port vs Cammer? I have had both. Two of the greatest 7k+ rpm BB motors I know, if that's what you plan to do with them. Kind of a shame to see folks putting these in "cruisers". They were built for the assault on the Grand Nationals back in the day...
My 2 cents.
Hey...look at the crazy basturds with 482ci Shelbys in their Cobras.
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What can I say? Guilty as charged......
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Aren't we all.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:18 PM
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Peter at ERA built an SOHC 427 some years back (in order to sell the motor he built a car around it... or something like that. That was his story at the time). It was a tight fit requiring modifications to the frame and to the foot boxes. It also required a small alternator and other modifications to fit. The motor had a partial gear drive and you could here the gear whine from a block away...
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They're neat/impressive motors but too big for the Cobra IMHO. Too heavy too. Fast in a straight line but if you think a BB has a disadvantage vis a vis a SB in handling then its two fold for the SOHC.

Besides its not historically correct.

They have a Wow! factor for those seeking peoples choice at the Mom and Pop car show but I wouldn't want one in a Shelby, but hey when has anyone here agreed with me anyway.

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Sure is easier changing spark plugs though.
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I should add that Peter's 427SOHC looked and sounded impressive, but it did not feel as fast, nor handle as well on the street as a good 428 with the added weight in the nose.

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Old 01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
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I should add that Peter's 427SOHC looked and sounded impressive, but it did not feel as fast, nor handle as well on the street as a good 428 with the added weight in the nose.

Jim
Hey, if someone with a nice SOHC wanted to trade me straight up + for my 600-mile aluminum 482, I would one very happy person. Original or not.
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Even Jay Leno's not safe on his own thread!
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I have run across a blue Cobra twice on the freeway in Orange County, CA. The license place reads "CAMMER". I rode along side for a while, and it sounded good. He sure didn't like sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic!
Does this belong to anyone here?
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