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02-14-2009, 12:22 AM
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the dealership in LA marked up the ZR1 to out the door for 170k. For that much I'd buy a GT 500. Now thats a supercar worth every penny.
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02-14-2009, 01:35 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobra crazee
the dealership in LA marked up the ZR1 to out the door for 170k. For that much I'd buy a GT 500. Now thats a supercar worth every penny.
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I just wanted to save this in case nobody believed me.
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02-14-2009, 05:19 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by cobra crazee
the dealership in LA marked up the ZR1 to out the door for 170k. For that much I'd buy a GT 500. Now thats a supercar worth every penny.
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I hope you meant a Ford GT, not a GT 500.
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02-14-2009, 07:53 AM
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For 170 large, would DEFINITELY prefer the Ford GT over a ZR1. 
Post the name of the dealer so we know not to go there for our everyday cars.  |
02-14-2009, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobra crazee
the dealership in LA marked up the ZR1 to out the door for 170k.
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I can guaranty that it's still there too. There are several of them for sale at $130k and they aren't selling either. Remember when the Ford GT came out? Ford dealers were marking them up $50K - $100K. Some actually got it too. That was when times were good. Things are different now.
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02-18-2009, 08:49 AM
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The ZR1 is an impressive car but in the end its a Corvette. A dime a dozen.
Where does it even compare to the Ford GT?
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02-18-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
The ZR1 is an impressive car but in the end its a Corvette. A dime a dozen.
Where does it even compare to the Ford GT?
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A stock ZR1 would wipe the floor with a stock Ford GT.. The Ford GT's stock times were right in line with the Z06s.. know several people who have both.
Now if you talk only about esthetics, that's another matter.
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02-18-2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
Where does it even compare to the Ford GT?
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Both have supercharged V8's.
Both have 6 speed manual transaxles
Both seat 2
Both cars built by American car companies.
Both cars are halo cars for their respective companies.
Both are limited production and similar cars will not be made again by either company for a long, long, long time.
Ford GT
550hp
3485
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.6 seconds/128 mph
Braking 70-0 mph 153'
Top speed est 205 mph
Corvette ZR1
638hp
Weight 3324
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.5/128mph
Braking 70-0 mph 142'
Top speed est 205 mph
Performance is within driver error so that is a wash.
Some people don't care about the numbers and are just brand snobs.
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02-18-2009, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hexnut72
Both have supercharged V8's.
Both have 6 speed manual transaxles
Both seat 2
Both cars built by American car companies.
Both cars are halo cars for their respective companies.
Both are limited production and similar cars will not be made again by either company for a long, long, long time.
Ford GT
550hp
3485
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.6 seconds/128 mph
Braking 70-0 mph 153'
Top speed est 205 mph
Corvette ZR1
638hp
Weight 3324
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.5/128mph
Braking 70-0 mph 142'
Top speed est 205 mph
Performance is within driver error so that is a wash.
Some people don't care about the numbers and are just brand snobs.
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Nurburgring times:
7.26.XX ZR1
7.40. XX Ford GT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times
The Viper ACR kicked eveyone's kiester w/a 7.22.xx
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02-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by undy
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Only 4/100's? Not exactly a butt whupin'. But the 14/100's gap between the ZR1 and Ford GT is quite a few car lengths at speed.
We're also talking about a ~22 mile road course. All three cars are incredible at The Ring, so I'm not trying to choose sides here...just putting it in perspective. |
02-18-2009, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Only 4/100's? Not exactly a butt whupin'. But the 14/100's gap between the ZR1 and Ford GT is quite a few car lengths at speed.
We're also talking about a ~22 mile road course. All three cars are incredible at The Ring, so I'm not trying to choose sides here...just putting it in perspective. |
Its not hundredths of a second, its seconds. So the 14 second gap and 4 second gap are sizable. |
02-18-2009, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hexnut72
Ford GT
550hp
Weight 3485
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.6 seconds/128 mph
Corvette ZR1
638hp
Weight 3324
0-60 mph 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile 11.5/128mph
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Logic would tell you with the HP/Weight ratio heavily favoring the ZR1 that the times wouldn't be as close. Obviously the mid-engine configuration of the GT is more optimal for traction and straight line acceleration, but The Ring times indicate that the ZR1 is the better all-around performer.  |
02-18-2009, 12:06 PM
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I wouldn't exactly say that a ZR1 would wipe the floor with a stock FGT based on the numbers posted above. Putting the slight performance edge a new ZR1 may have over the FGT aside (simply rectified by installing the Heffner Tune) it will never have the character or soul found in a Ford GT.
There will undoubtedly be cars that will come along that will exceed the performance of the Ford GT (now at least 3 years old) but few cars ever come along that set bench marks in design, perfermance, character, soul, stir the soul and clearly become automotive icons themselves and spring from world icons and automotive heros like the Ford GT. The Cobra is another example of an automotive icon. I don't consider the Corvette an automotive icon on the level of the FGT, GT40, Cobra and others. But hey thats just me.
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