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04-13-2009, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Originally Posted by Buzz
I don't know if I totally agree, elmariachi - I own a Unique and while I will state that it is a very good replica - accurate in appearance, well engineered, easy to assemble, solidly constructed and backed up by some of the finest people in the business - I will not claim it is the "best" in the company of Kirkhams and CSX replicas.
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I would agree with that in terms of my Hurricane vs a Kirkham as well. But to lay it all out in a spreadsheet and be unemotional and objective about it would be tough for most.
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04-13-2009, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Rad22, she's a real byoot (does that second roll bar come off?) . FFR's have a nice, light chassis and great factoy support. They can be finished as nicely as anything else out there. I personally don't like the odd-looking hindquarters that the Smiths could have changed a long time ago if they wanted to. That's one of the reasons that I really hope they go ahead with the project to digitize and replicate the body of the late **** Smith's #198 car. That would elevate FFR to a whole new level.
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)
BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
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04-13-2009, 11:10 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Patrick, don't give up on yourself just yet, buddy - I'm sure you still got some left in you! 
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Have no fear; there's plenty more where that came from. 
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04-13-2009, 10:36 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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These threads are always entertaining. Please no self-destruct button here. There are only so many carb, FI and MSD tuning questions I can handle.
I think the chart in concept is a good idea, but it needs to stay grounded in fact. Prospective Cobra owners should have basic info such as prices, delivery time, but not build time, aluminum versus fiberglass, round versus square tube, suspension type, roller versus kit, rear end type, bolt-on versus pin drive wheels, etc.
The rest of the subjective nonsense is pointless, although again, very entertaining.
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04-13-2009, 10:38 AM
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All that work and attention to detail (chromed door hinges no less) and ignition wires that are too long! You look hard enough and you can find something....
Seriously, if it is a kit you cannot go about creating a "standard" to judge all others by.
Make your own chart (as Mike did) and assign your own weights and values to each brand. I will not pretend to think what I sell is right for everyone. If someone calls me and keeps talking about "originality" then I nudge them away, they will never be completely satisfied with what I sell if it has to walk like a duck and quack like a duck.
There should be a gentlemans agreement here, if the poster does not state their budget, intended use, mechanical abilities, and intended length of ownership then let them get self acquainted.
Whatever you currently own is the best for you, we already know that.
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04-13-2009, 10:45 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Originally Posted by Cashburn
There should be a gentlemans agreement here, if the poster does not state their budget, intended use, mechanical abilities, and intended length of ownership then let them get self acquainted. Whatever you currently own is the best for you, we already know that.
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Yep. Notice the post count for the thread starter....2. Its the same question most everyone seems to ask who gets into this, "which one is best?" New people seem to want to approach this like they buy PCs and TVs...lay it out in a spreadsheet, weigh the options, and one bubbles to the top. Not. 
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04-13-2009, 12:18 PM
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Whatever you currently own is the best for you, we already know that.
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Not necessarily. There are many who drive what they can afford or what's practical or available at the time. I'm sure most Mazda RX8 owners don't actually think their cars are better than say, a Corvette ZR-1.
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)
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04-13-2009, 12:29 PM
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Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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DAH! My car is the best......HUMMMMM! Only if I had a million or two, let me see maybe I'd just buy an original Shelby Cobra, or a GT40..or a whole lot of stuff..one of each. Perhaps that "Bat mobile" would do it?
Whatever you build, drive and play with is the best Cobra.
Bill
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04-13-2009, 01:20 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again... FFR is the best and all other replica owners are my beatches. 
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04-13-2009, 05:32 PM
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Hmmm, let me see now, where is that "CLOSED" button...
Again, not forwarding the subject matter, but entertaining nonetheless.
Alas, on Cobra Country right now, you can get the brand new 4th Edition of the Complete Guide to Cobra Replicas by Curt Scott. I have never read it and I do not have any affiliation to the author or publisher, but it could be an excellent starting point for anyone considering the purchase of Cobra replica.
http://www.cobracountry.com/home2.html
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04-13-2009, 05:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
... but it could be an excellent starting point for anyone considering the purchase of Cobra replica.
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Does it say anywhere in that book that, when it comes to Cobras, the level of one's vehement is inversely proportional to the quality of one's build? 
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04-13-2009, 05:54 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Factory Five chassis/Mr. Bruce slabside
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Here's another FFR.
John O
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04-13-2009, 06:00 PM
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Beautiful.
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04-13-2009, 08:38 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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Originally Posted by jolsen42
Here's another FFR.
John O
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Boing! 
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04-13-2009, 06:02 PM
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Thank you Patrick, I knew you would see it my way!!!! 
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04-14-2009, 06:30 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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The cars lines are pretty nice. The orange headlights have to go. It has a beautiful paintjob
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04-14-2009, 06:36 AM
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Me likes the orange headlites, but the radiator was put in crooked. Hope that's not one of them replicas with the weak square tube frames
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04-14-2009, 11:06 AM
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Whether it's orange headlight covers, dipsticks made in Taiwan, the "assymetry" of dual roll bars or someone's (I'm not mentioning any names) incessant belittling of the FFR, as long as we all keep everything in perspective and have fun. Life is too short.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Chart is good.
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04-14-2009, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
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...or someone's (I'm not mentioning any names) incessant belittling of the FFR...
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Hmmm, you must be referring to Pedro & Johnny. 
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04-14-2009, 02:42 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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I try to judge each car independently. They all have their plusses and minuses.
No matter who made it, they are all replicas.
So, whether you toiled for months putting yours together or simply wrote a check and drove off in it, we are all part of the brotherhood that is "Cobra Worshippers". And we each worship the "Cobra" in our own way.
Anyone can write a check for a car. Not everyone can build a car from scratch.
So, let's knock off the "mine is better than yours" BS and get back to driving and having fun?
Besides, mine is better than yours anyway!
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