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06-28-2009, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Can Your Cobra Do this?
Kinda cool.  Here's a shot of my ERA with the jack under the frame at the front wheel -- the front wheel is a couple of inches above the ground. I had a trouble light lying on the garage floor behind the rear wheel and you can see the back wheel is also off the ground. Now we've all heard horror stories about the rigidity of the original Cobra's frame. Do the new Shelby cars pick the rear wheel up when you jack the front wheel? Or are the continuation frames "wiggly" like the originals?

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06-28-2009, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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I can do that with my ERA and my FFR
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06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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SPF does it as well.
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06-28-2009, 02:29 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
I can do that with my ERA and my FFR
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An FFR too? I'm shocked.  But I'm pretty sure I've seen shots of the originals with a front wheel jacked up and the rear wheel firmly planted on the ground. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected tout de suite.
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06-28-2009, 02:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
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This situation really depends on where the jack is along the wheelbase and how much wheel travel in rebound there is at each end. No magic happening here.
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06-28-2009, 02:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strictlypersonl
This situation really depends on where the jack is along the wheelbase and how much wheel travel in rebound there is at each end. No magic happening here.
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That makes sense. If there's a lot of wheel travel the frame could go right up and the wheel stay on the ground. Alright, I'll go back to sleep now.... 
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06-28-2009, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Santa Fe,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cardiac, 428 FE
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My Cardiac lifts both same-side wheels when jacking at the front or the rear, just like shown in the photo. Course it isn't made any more. Very stiff frame.
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06-28-2009, 03:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SantaFe66
My Cardiac lifts both same-side wheels when jacking at the front or the rear, just like shown in the photo. Course it isn't made any more. Very stiff frame.
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Uhhh, when you get pulled over by the cops in your Cobra do you call that a "cardiac arrest?" 
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06-28-2009, 05:23 PM
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Location: Santa Fe,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cardiac, 428 FE
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Haven't been pulled over yet, but I'll keep that in mind should it happen. Our local cops here in New Mexico are a humourless lot.
The company that built my car was in Vancouver, Canada and probably failed because of that and not because of the quality, which is pretty good. It's hard to get a finished car across the border to the U.S. and titled/registered. Mine came across in pieces and was completed in Washington.
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06-29-2009, 09:59 AM
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When I jack up my FFR, ALL the wheels come off the ground 
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06-29-2009, 10:02 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TButtrick
When I jack up my FFR, ALL the wheels come off the ground 
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It must be that hydrogen effect. You know I've heard that using hydrogen in the tires instead of nitrogen results in a terrific burnout... but I never knew it had other benefits until now.... 
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06-29-2009, 01:17 PM
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Location: Cincinnati,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Roush 402R and CSX 6029
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I did see a nice demo once where an SPF had all 4 wheels off the ground, balanced on a single pivot point and both of the doors opened and closed the same as they would with all 4 wheels solid on the ground. As I recall, the car had a 351W engine (not a BB). It was an impressive demo.
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06-29-2009, 04:47 PM
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I've actually seen my car levitate all on it's own in my garage. We even changed the oil. Of course we'd had a full liter of Patrone but it was REALLY cool!
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07-07-2009, 08:56 PM
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Location: Abe Lincolns Birthplace,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4761, KCR Shelby Alloy 496,760hp
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My shelby is just as rigid ,I can place the jack so it will teter toter on just one wheel.
On the other hand the shell valley cracks and pops ,you have to open the doors when you jack it up to keep them from jamming and chipping. Tim K
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07-07-2009, 09:45 PM
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Frame Stiffness
You should be able to put the jack under either main frame tube at the front of the car just behind the front cap and get three wheels off the ground after you have lifted the front wheel on the side that the jack is placed no more than 10" in the air. This is assuming you have a frame that ends about where a Kirkham or original does.
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07-08-2009, 06:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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Pat! I see your point. Well, it wasn't posted with that intent.
What is FWIW?
For What Its Worth??

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07-08-2009, 07:47 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
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Pat! I see your point. Well, it wasn't posted with that intent. 
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But you are more intelligent and perceptive than most. Oft-times my intent here slips by the reader like a thief in the night.
Quote:
Originally Posted by trularin
What is FWIW?
For What Its Worth??
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Yep, just like Buffalo Springfield.
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07-08-2009, 08:36 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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I can dig a little "Mr. Soul".

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11-11-2010, 12:28 PM
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Location: Huntsville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, 545 stroker
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Midstates too.
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11-11-2010, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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I love these "Rip Van Winkle" threads that come back to life. Guess Patrick's threads are just ageless. 
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