Rick Kopec's "What's Your Beef?"

[REAL 1]

Easy. Incorrect and poor ad text.

They were never "Shelby Cobras". They were Mustang Cobra IIs. Again Ford Profiting off of their $1.00 purchase of the name. They throw in a picture of CS and tie it all in and claim family relation.

You guys know better. The average Joe may not but you guys should.

And your point is?????

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

And your point is?????

RodKnock says he has a grainy video of you at your firm's "Karaoke Night" singing "If you like Pina Coladas, gettin' caught in the rain...." He says he's prepared to post it if you don't settle on his terms. I think he means it.

[What'saCobra?]

Pssst!

That $1 FORD paid for the name?

More like several million in debts and other "liabilities" FORD had to pick-up in the wrap-up of the US Cobra operations shut-down in 1967/8.

i doubt if 1099's were filed.

[Dominik]

I do go along with Rick’s definition of „replica“ which has been used by Jaguar for the XK120 non-record braking street version of the „real“ record braker. But „replica“ has changed it’s definition. We all know that.

The correct answer for the man in the street to the question:
Is it an original (meanning the 60s) MAY be
a. Yes, build in the 60s worth $600.000
b. No, build by Kirkham, worth $100.000
c. No, build by „xyz“ worth $xx.xxx

What they actually want to write home is: I saw and touched a $600.000 427 Cobra.

Dom

Sometimes I wish I had another hobby, or at least passion for another car.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dominik

The correct answer for the man in the street to the question:

a. Yes, build in the 60s worth $600.000
b. No, build by Kirkham, worth $100.000
c. No, build by „xyz“ worth $xx.xxx

C'mon, even Evan doesn't tell people what these cars cost, or what they're worth, nor does he delve in to the subjective versus objective theory of Cobra valuation.

RodKnock -- I think you should post the video, anonymously of course. Better yet, make it look like ERA Chas. did it.

[ERA Chas]

I'll repeat myself.
Pat, you have too much time on your hands. Now I know how someone can get 8500+ posts in 4 years.
Also, nice portrait of you on the last line.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

I Now I know how someone can get 8500+ posts in 4 years.

I have a staff of obsequious minions that tirelessly use my CC account to post humorous, insightful (and occasionally incite-ful) banter....

[REAL 1]

Whatsa: The folklore is the old $1.00 for the name bit. The reality I'm sure is more involved.

No, I don't get into values. Anything is worth what you can get. The cost of the actual parts on any of these cars doesn't put them that far apart in many cases except when you are talking aluminum body and original spec components.

What separates these cars in value is the intrinsic value we place in them based on where they came from, where they were manufactured, original spec or mustang components etc.. As far as the originals go, part for part many cars such as ERAs, Kirkhams, New Shelbys are built better and are better cars. As someone I know who has an original 427 street car and still does once remarked about the chasis tubing that he's seen better tubing on lawn furniture. But who wouldn't rather have an original?

This may all change one day. None of us know what tomorrow brings. For all we know, fiberglass becomes the in thing and people have to have Mustang suspension. FFRs now just passed originals in value. This is a hypothetical, repeat this is a hypothetical and a wild one at that. But point is values change based on many factors some out of of our control.

Hell, if our Messiah and all the libs get their way all these cars could be MANDATED into the clunkers for cash program. Don't laugh. They are already on the way to telling you how high and how low you can put your thermostat.

Continuations original? No. Real Cobras? Yes. Absolutely. Value? today X tomorrow maybe Y. That goes for originals too.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This may all change one day. None of us know what tomorrow brings. For all we know, fiberglass becomes the in thing and people have to have Mustang suspension. FFRs now just passed originals in value.

I can't believe Patrick let this one sail by without comment. He must be sick today.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I can't believe Patrick let this one sail by without comment. He must be sick today.

No, I viewed that as Evan's outstretched "hand of acquiescence," and I accepted it by my silence.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

I'll repeat myself.
Pat, you have too much time on your hands. Now I know how someone can get 8500+ posts in 4 years.
Also, nice portrait of you on the last line.

Yes, and approximately 8,400 of those posts are slandering Factory Five replicas.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, and approximately 8,400 of those posts are slandering Factory Five replicas.

Libel. Slander is oral only. I'll discipline the minions accordingly.

[Jamo]

...and so it goes.

[csx4910]

"As the Cobra real vs replica world turns....These are the days of our Lives"

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by csx4910

"As the Cobra real vs replica world turns....These are the days of our Lives"

My car is real enough to me, and I could really give a flying f*ck what anyone else thinks.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

My car is real enough to me, and I could really give a flying f*ck what anyone else thinks.

Hmm, what category of adult film would you find that technique in?

[Trevor Legate]

Do we all hold hands now....?

[misfit41]

This is such a worn out subject, I have a CSX4k7 and a shell vallley. For a C note I can help anyone make up their own minds about real or otherwise. Tim K

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by misfit41

This is such a worn out subject, I have a CSX4k7 and a shell vallley. For a C note I can help anyone make up their own minds about real or otherwise. Tim K

This thread had rolled off of the main CC pages and I was hoping it would get buried in a pile of cyber debris and then off into oblivion. Then you had to post a reply.

[Jamo]

Yup...sleeping dog gets kicked.

Let's let it go back to sleep.