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07-12-2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
The whole "not a kit car" or "factory built" (when talking about non-Shelby Cobras) is a strange situation. People who say stuff like that, are trying to let people know that their Cobra is superior to some other Cobras, when they can't say they own a real Shelby Cobra.
I think the biggest problem with SAAC and the "terminology", is their view of the word "replica". They are trying to use the exact dictionary term, meaning an exact copy. So by their view, any non-Shelby built car is not a replica, whereas the rest of the world calls them replicas. And then fighting that notion, makes them look even worse.
In my opinion, a replica is something that is made to look like something else. It doesn't have to be an exact copy. Any non-Shelby built Cobra, should be legitimately called a replica. It's replicating the look of a Shelby Cobra. You can buy a Rolex watch replica right? It looks like a real Rolex, but it's not an "exact copy". Most things that are considered replicas are rarely exact copies.
And a "kit car", is a car you buy as a kit. If it has to be assembled, it's a kit car. If it was built by the manufacturer, it's a rolling chassis and the term kit car is not a valid term. SAAC should stop calling all non-Shelby built Cobras kit cars.
My FFR was a kit car. My Kirkham was a roller. Both were replicas. It's really not that hard to define.
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Sal,
Here's some notes from the new Registry, page 708,
"Because he (Shelby) did not want his cars devalued by using the term replica, Shelby chose "Component Cobra." This separated his cars from all the rest, the riff-raff, and also suited his need to explain (mostly to various DMV authorities) that these cars were only components of a completed car - not the completed car itself, which would be required to adhere at all sorts of current stringent governmental safety regulations"
Ok, you can discuss now
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07-12-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
Sal,
Here's some notes from the new Registry, page 708,
"Because he (Shelby) did not want his cars devalued by using the term replica, Shelby chose "Component Cobra." This separated his cars from all the rest, the riff-raff, and also suited his need to explain (mostly to various DMV authorities) that these cars were only components of a completed car - not the completed car itself, which would be required to adhere at all sorts of current stringent governmental safety regulations"
Ok, you can discuss now
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If you notice, I didn't mention my current car. Didn't want to open THAT can of worms! 
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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07-13-2009, 05:55 PM
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wunder iff Kopek hates Cheetahs too?
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07-19-2009, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
Sal,
Here's some notes from the new Registry, page 708,
"Because he (Shelby) did not want his cars devalued by using the term replica, Shelby chose "Component Cobra." This separated his cars from all the rest, the riff-raff, and also suited his need to explain (mostly to various DMV authorities) that these cars were only components of a completed car - not the completed car itself, which would be required to adhere at all sorts of current stringent governmental safety regulations"
Ok, you can discuss now
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That's the second time you've posted that to me, are you trying to say something?
I also am not sure what that has to do with what I wrote? Yes, new CSXs are component cars, as pretty much all other modern Cobras are, because they have to be sold as such for the obvious reason they do not meet current DOT and EPA standards for a new completed automobile.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
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07-19-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
That's the second time you've posted that to me, are you trying to say something?
I also am not sure what that has to do with what I wrote? Yes, new CSXs are component cars, as pretty much all other modern Cobras are, because they have to be sold as such for the obvious reason they do not meet current DOT and EPA standards for a new completed automobile.
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Sal,
Perhaps I'm having a senior moment but I only find my reply once on page one of this thread.
I believe I was offering the current terminology used by both SAAC and SA for the 4000 etc series of cars. They are referred to as component cars rather than continuation cars.
http://www.shelbyautos.com/CSX4000.asp
http://www.saac.com/index.php?option...pper&Itemid=78
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07-19-2009, 05:31 PM
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Guess I'm the retard with the senior moment... I clicked a link to this thread which brought up the first page, not the last, and thought you'd posted the same thing again. 
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
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07-19-2009, 05:49 PM
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Guess I'm the retard with the senior moment... I clicked a link to this thread which brought up the first page, not the last, and thought you'd posted the same thing again. 
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Does that mean your're the older one 
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07-19-2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
Does that mean your're the older one 
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I am guessing not by a long shot  .
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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