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07-15-2009, 12:05 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
I wonder who asked that question?
I notice he did not use the terms genuine or real in his answer.
He does lump Kirkham and CSX4000 into the same category that he calls just "Cobra" though.
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You da man!
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07-15-2009, 12:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #570 w Shelby FE
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I get upset when people refer to an adjustable wrench as a "cresent wrench".
Must be a slow day in Cobra news...
Posi sounds cool, if Ford had thought of a better name (like Detroit locker) the public might have picked it up...
I can think of a lot of things to have a "beef" about, this ain't one of them...
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07-15-2009, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo
I get upset when people refer to an adjustable wrench as a "cresent wrench".
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I get equally upset they use the term "cresent roll." 
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07-15-2009, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I get equally upset they use the term "cresent roll." 
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Oh Patrick, so he forgot a "c". I thought Evan was the CC spelling bee champ.
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07-15-2009, 01:29 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Oh Patrick, so he forgot a "c". I thought Evan was the CC spelling bee champ.
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It's just giddiness from the market shooting up this afternoon. 
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07-15-2009, 02:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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I have no problem with his logic.
While he didn't use the term "REAL" or "genuine" in his "answer" to the question, the official SAAC position as to the CSX Continuation Cobras is clear. They do. This answer is HIS answer not SAACs answer.
Additionally, the question was specific. It didn't ask "are Continuation" Cobras "REAL"/genuine Cobras. That position was staked out officially by SAAC.
Also, BTW he clearly separates out in his own opinion the fact that the Continuation series, completion series and in his opinion Kirkhams are not considered "replicas" as that term has come to be commonly used, meant and understood.
They are all fairly referred to as Cobras because they are built to the same spec as the basic original specs. There are many variations in even original cars as to build beyond the basic specs. Hard to find any two originals that are exactly alike.
Kirkhams while not a "Shelby Cobra" and not a real/genuine Cobra as accepted by SAAC I think should be considered a Cobra when referring to it. It follows the basic specs and ingredients to a "T" and has been utilized by SAI for their Continuation series just as AC was used by SAI for the original series. AC's are properly referred to Cobras. Therefore Kirkhams deserve that reference too.
And I also agree that when you refer to Continuation series Cobras, Completion series Cobras and perhaps even Kirkhams as "replicas" it is disparaging to the car because of the common meaning and understanding the term "replica" has come to attain.
Very simply there are Original Cobras and Contiuation series Cobras. Both are real but built at different points in time.
Thats how I see it as to the Shelby Continuation series and thats how SAAC sees it. I think its fair, accurate and factual.
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07-15-2009, 02:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
I have no problem with his logic.
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Now that you concurred with Mr. Kopec's assessment, I'm sure he'll be able to rest easy this evening.
We're all Cobras, so let's hold hands and sing "Kumbaya." It's all about the adjective. 
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07-15-2009, 08:20 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo
I get upset when people refer to an adjustable wrench as a "cresent wrench".
Must be a slow day in Cobra news...
Posi sounds cool, if Ford had thought of a better name (like Detroit locker) the public might have picked it up...
I can think of a lot of things to have a "beef" about, this ain't one of them...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I get equally upset they use the term "cresent roll." 
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... wait a minute ... what did you say, there was a Q-Tip sticking my ear, easier to use than fumbling for a Kleenex in a Ziploc bag. Be sure to wrap that roll up in Saran warp ... or was that Reynolds wrap, can't remember, but for sure it wasn't with a Scott towel. Well better a Crescent wrench than a Vise-Grip ... enough brand name nonsense ... now back to the thread ...  
- Tim
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07-15-2009, 08:34 PM
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Watched the video. Gotta give it to him. John is a funny guy. I know I've made the list of notables here, for whatever thats worth when I'm included in one of his routines along with Sunshine of course after being prompted by one of our asteemed moderators  .
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07-15-2009, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Watched the video. Gotta give it to him. John is a funny guy. I know I've made the list of notables here, for whatever thats worth when I'm included in one of his routines along with Sunshine of course after being prompted by one of our asteemed moderators  .
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