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[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Seems pretty simple to me. If Shelby says it's a Cobra, it's a Cobra. If AC says it's a Cobra, it's a Cobra.

Does it follow Sal that if he says an SPF is a Cobra, it's a 'Cobra' (in the sense that it originated from his organization)??

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Does it follow Sal that if he says an SPF is a Cobra, it's a 'Cobra' (in the sense that it originated from his organization)??

Obviously we all know that Shelby granted SPF the right to use the Cobra name. So yes, an SPF can be called a Cobra (even though it doesn't matter as we all call them all Cobras). It's a Superformance Cobra, which is a replica of a real Shelby Cobra, which is a Cobra sold by Shelby.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

It's a Superformance Cobra, which is a replica of a real Shelby Cobra, which is a Cobra sold by Shelby.

...therefore if Carroll says anything's a Cobra, then it is- which also makes it a replica of his real Cobra.

But it's been expressed here that a replica is exact to the original in every way. Something no SPF is.

So if I get this thread (to Jamo's amusement) an ERA (for example) is neither a 'Cobra' nor 'replica' for the following reasons:
A. He didn't allow them to say it is.
B. It's not a 'replica', exacting in duplication to the original (rectangular tube chassis for example).

So I conclude an ERA is-an 'ERA', an identity unto it's own. When asked, I always refer to my car as an ERA -not a replica or Cobra. It's a hand built sports car that closely resembles Shelby's Cobras.

It's my opinion that Shelby seriously dilutes the pedigree of his cars, so fervently championed here by their owners, by the licenses he grants to carry the name.

The tin can K-car owners and crap ERA owners (among many others) are not burdened by a fierce need to demonstrate superiority and propagate resale value by belonging to the franchise.

Flame away.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

...therefore if Carroll says anything's a Cobra, then it is- which also makes it a replica of his real Cobra.

So I conclude an ERA is-an 'ERA', an identity unto it's own. When asked, I always refer to my car as an ERA -not a replica or Cobra. It's a hand built sports car that closely resembles Shelby's Cobras.

Chas -- When I had him sign my car I think there was a 50/50 chance that he would have written "ERA732 Cobra" had I asked him to.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Chas -- When I had him sign my car I think there was a 50/50 chance that he would have written "ERA732 Cobra" had I asked him to.

...so you wrote it after he signed it-that's great. You should send him that picture-you're a lawyer and would have a fighting chance against his legal staff.
Well for about a month maybe-then they'd burn your money to the ground for years.

How much did he charge for that little enhancement?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

...so you wrote it after he signed it-that's great. You should send him that picture-you're a lawyer and would have a fighting chance against his legal staff.
Well for about a month maybe-then they'd burn your money to the ground for years.

How much did he charge for that little enhancement?

He wrote it exactly as you see it. Of course, you knew that.

[noblec5]

I own a Bondurant! I have proof.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

It's my opinion that Shelby seriously dilutes the pedigree of his cars, so fervently championed here by their owners, by the licenses he grants to carry the name.

The tin can K-car owners and crap ERA owners (among many others) are not burdened by a fierce need to demonstrate superiority and propagate resale value by belonging to the franchise.

I made the point earlier allowing it to be ignored first. I'll requote myself here since Pat's and these are better examples of my thought. I forgot the Oldsmoblie-powered Series I, Turbo-powered 'Dodges' - ad nauseum.

[RodKnock]

Uh, tin can? Tin sure shines up good.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Uh, tin can? Tin sure shines up good.

Don't misunderstand my intent-that's in the eyes of some Shelby owners. I also refer to "crap ERA's", something I obviously don't believe.
Your car's a gem.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Don't misunderstand my intent-that's in the eyes of some Shelby owners. I also refer to "crap ERA's", something I obviously don't believe. Your car's a gem.

Chas, I knew you were kidding. I just forgot to add the smile. No worries. All's good.

Now, I want a list of all the CSX owners that think Kirkham's are a "tin can."

If I get Mr. Shelby's autograph, will my car still be considered a "tin can"?

[REAL 1]

Patrickt: Why? Was I off key or something?

Hamburger in Paradise is my "B" side song. I can send you a recording of it if you like.