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08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Elverta,
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FFR/Backdraft/SPF????
Not trying to start anything, just wanting to know what you have and why you decided on it. I have gone and looked at all of them and still can't decide. For me there is no real huge desire to build from scratch, if I could get a turnkey-, I would be good with that. Does anyone have a Backdraft/SPF? How do you like them? How is the paint that came on it??? That is my biggest concern. I planned on StreetRodPainters to paint my car if I went with a FFR.
I'm planning on a 427SO from Tom Lucas, FE Specialists and a TKO600.
Thanks in advance,
Craig
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08-20-2009, 03:42 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: WPG. M.B. CAN.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Occupational Health & Safety Instructor
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Hi craig...... if you really have no huge desire to build one then FFR isn't for you. I know zippo about Backdraft other than they look nice in pics. I can tell you i've seen many SPF's and am really impressed with the fit and finish.
What you might like is have keith craft supply you with your cobra w/one of his all aluminum 482's under the hood. pricey ?? absolutely,but what a freakin awesome combo.
Turn key ! crowd gather! Go fast
mho
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08-20-2009, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW
How is the paint that came on it??? That is my biggest concern. I planned on StreetRodPainters to paint my car if I went with a FFR.
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If you can't decide between the three, then by all means go with an FFR and spend eight to ten grand on a high-end paint job and body preparation. It will look fantastic to you.
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08-20-2009, 05:05 PM
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Couldn't have been said better!!
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Originally Posted by patrickt
If you can't decide between the three, then by all means go with an FFR and spend eight to ten grand on a high-end paint job and body preparation. It will look fantastic to you.
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08-20-2009, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hillsboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch built CSX style frame, Carbon fiber body, 393 Stroker, T-bird IRS, T5
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With the market what it is these days, you could probably find a complete, driving FFR for what the others would cost for a roller. Then you just have to change out the motor/tranny and you're there.
Bob
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08-20-2009, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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While each car appeals to different buyers, in my opinion, if you're buying and installing a Tom Lucas FE engine, which isn't cheap, then I would opt for the SPF. If you're spending the big bucks on an FE engine, then I think this might be the "best fit" of the three.
Since the engine will be near accurate, then the SPF body, in my opinion again, is the closest of the three you listed to the original Cobra. However, the BDR and FFR are both excellent cars depending on other characteristics such as budget, painted roller versus unpainted builder, customer service, ride quality, etc.
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08-20-2009, 05:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
While each car appeals to different buyers, in my opinion, if you're buying and installing a Tom Lucas FE engine, which isn't cheap, then I would opt for the SPF. If you're spending the big bucks on an FE engine, then I think this might be the "best fit" of the three.
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I don't know about that... there's a certain allure to an FFR that has a high quality FE under the hood. There was an old TV series like that, where the beautiful long haired female cop drove an old beat up Volkswagen that had a 911 engine in it. I can't remeber the show's name, but it was on ABC, maybe 35 years ago. And no, it wasn't "Mod Squad." Now that's going to bug me until I remember the name of it.... 
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08-20-2009, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Superformance w/392 stroker
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Here's a suggestion that might help: Start by writing a short sentence that describes what you're looking for in a Cobra, like a mission statement. Then refer back to this mission statement as you assess your options and make your decision.
I used this approach myself and found it helpful in keeping me on track during my Cobra search, which ended very well (I bought a resale Superformance roadster at the beginning of July).
Good luck and enjoy the hunt.
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08-20-2009, 07:52 PM
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Thanks to all for the reply'. Here is my deal. I want a Kirkham, and just got back from UT and visiting their factor. Now reality sets in, 85K the wife states, well you know how that turned out. So, until the Kirkham visit I was going for a FFR, but the more I think about building a FFR, the more I want a roller. So right now I'm looking at SPF and Backdraft. Backdraft is easy to find a price on, 32K, SPF is a different story.
Can someone tell me how it works buying a SPF? Do I only have the option of what the dealers have in stock?? I have 2 dealers in my area, 1 in Reno and 1 in Redwood City, SF Bay area, 2 hrs either way. Can I order one with the color combo I want? I would like Bright Silver and indigo blue strips, Does anyone know what a roller does cost??? Is there a warranty that comes with a roller? Like I stated before, pretty set on the motor and the trans.
Thanks as always,
Craig
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08-20-2009, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW
So right now I'm looking at SPF and Backdraft. Backdraft is easy to find a price on, 32K, SPF is a different story.
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Since you're in CA, an SB100 might be helpful. Have you taken a look at www.cobracountry.com yet? Here's a nice SPF you might like for $60k.

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08-21-2009, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mountain View,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2914 Sunset / Titanium
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW
Thanks to all for the reply'. Here is my deal. I want a Kirkham, and just got back from UT and visiting their factor. Now reality sets in, 85K the wife states, well you know how that turned out. So, until the Kirkham visit I was going for a FFR, but the more I think about building a FFR, the more I want a roller. So right now I'm looking at SPF and Backdraft. Backdraft is easy to find a price on, 32K, SPF is a different story.
Can someone tell me how it works buying a SPF? Do I only have the option of what the dealers have in stock?? I have 2 dealers in my area, 1 in Reno and 1 in Redwood City, SF Bay area, 2 hrs either way. Can I order one with the color combo I want? I would like Bright Silver and indigo blue strips, Does anyone know what a roller does cost??? Is there a warranty that comes with a roller? Like I stated before, pretty set on the motor and the trans.
Thanks as always,
Craig
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Hi Craig,
I work with Bob & Dennis in Redwood City/Reno. You can order an SPF in any offered color combo, or request any special color. The only real advantage to buying what someone has in stock, is you may get a better deal and you won't have to wait. I personally wanted a specific color when I bought mine, so I ordered it and waited. I liked the wait, as it gave me a chance to decide on an engine package and work out all of the legistics. A basic rollor goes for 42,900, but as I stated before there are incentives going on due to the economy. The rollers come with a one year warranty, bumper to bumper. If you are available, either come by the dealer or come by Club Auto Sport in San Jose Saturday to the show & shine. I will have my SPF there, I know of several others and at least a couple of CSXs that will be there. Feel free to contact me if you would like additional information.
Andrei
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08-20-2009, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Don't overlook a quality built ERA in your search for the perfect car.
Bill S.
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08-20-2009, 08:30 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Craig, if you go to Cobra Country you'll find SPFs, Kirkhams, West Coast, B&B, Backdrafts, Factory Five...... but no ERAs (well, actually there are two, but both marked "SOLD"). If you want an ERA, Bill's car is a very nice deal. 
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08-20-2009, 08:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Francisco,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cutting Edge Replicas, 427 World block SBF, TWM Injection
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What is the most important thing for you? motor and trans? custom color? Original look?
Here are some other options:
Ken Pike can build a FFR kit for you and then paint it any color you want with under hood show stripes. You pick the parts, custom interior, and he puts it together.
Lots of SPF for sale on Cobra Country. Buy a used one with a TKO 600 and SB-100 and start having fun. Replace the motor in the winter. If "resale" value is important to you, then it appears that the SPF holds it value better than Backdrafts and FFR. As I recall, Dynamic Motors in the Bay Area and SFP in Reno are owned by the same person. He seems like a nice guy.
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08-20-2009, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Craig,
Sit back, mix/pour/blend/brew your favorite beverage and read every post by LudicrousSpeed. The most documented research project in CC history, that almost ended in a car purchase.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/sear...6&pp=25&page=7
Start from post 1 and you'll learn everything (and more) that you'll ever want to to know about SPF's and BDR's. I'm sure you'll probably read about some FFR cars along the way.
Best bet, connect with your local Cobra group and check out the cars in person. You'll figure out pretty quickly which car is right for you.  Next step is to beg, borrow, or bribe, your way into test driving a car. You're best bet, may be a friendly SPF dealer with a demo car or a pre-owned car for sale.
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Last edited by Got the Bug; 08-20-2009 at 08:49 PM..
Reason: Can't spell worth a shix
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08-20-2009, 08:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Got the Bug
Craig,
Sit back, mix/pour/blend/brew your favorite beverage and read every post by LudicrousSpeed. The most documented research project in CC history, that almost ended in a car purchase.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/sear...archid=1003886
Start from post 1 and you'll learn everything (and more) that you'll ever want to to know about SPF's and BDR's. I'm sure you'll probably read about some FFR cars along the way.
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That link doesn't work. Try this:
SPF Owners- Time to Nitpick!
Man, does that bring back memories.   
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08-20-2009, 08:57 PM
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Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Thanks for the updated link Patrick. I went back and tried update the link to LudicrousSpeed's first post so Craig could experience the entire history. 
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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08-20-2009, 09:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got the Bug
Thanks for the updated link Patrick. I went back and tried update the link to LudicrousSpeed's first post so Craig could experience the entire history. 
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... but the ending was sad. Not as sad as Rsimoes (sp?) thread, which was without a doubt the saddest thread I've ever read in my life, but it was still pretty darn sad. Yessirrree, sad sad sad. 
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08-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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08-21-2009, 06:32 AM
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Location: Jersey Shore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SPF#2572, 427 S/O 2X4
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Quote:
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... but the ending was sad. Not as sad as Rsimoes (sp?) thread, which was without a doubt the saddest thread I've ever read in my life, but it was still pretty darn sad. Yessirrree, sad sad sad. 
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Will this name ever go away? 
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