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10-11-2009, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Center,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Used to own BDR #98, 302 - 340 HP, Rosso Red, No Stripes
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Did anyone get any good interior pics. I plan on building an ERA identical to this.
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10-11-2009, 08:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckG
Did anyone get any good interior pics. I plan on building an ERA identical to this.
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I did get quite a few pictures and will upload the unedited batch to photobucket later.
I also got some engine photos that I will upload and attach here later too. We watched the DVR replay last night when we got home (well, my second Vegas home). I was the one on TV shooting the engine compartment when it was on stage. |
10-11-2009, 09:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Again the select best of the rest of the story.
Frenchie, the guy driving, was a great help in January with our donation car and also with my Cobra. He helped me get the proper coolant levels for shipping to cold Colorado. I saw him driving it in the line - all of the drivers just wait in the line until their car comes up and he seemed a little bored.
Engine pics:
The fellow on the right is one of the new owners.
This is one of the inside shots (I limit my posts to 10, so this one fit in).
Carroll rarely "gets in the front seat". After the Prudhomme Super Snake, I spotted Frenchie driving CSX2568 back in (the wrong way) and he pulled it right in front of the Mustang for some Speed photo ops. It wasn't more than a few minutes later that Carroll came over, got in the front seat, and signed it.
The new owners. We chatted for a few minutes. They have a museum in Florida so at least we'll be able to see it if we go there. I think I've seen them buy cars at BJ in the past.
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10-11-2009, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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I'm interested in the museum, do you know the name or location? Great pics and commentary, it's almost like being there!
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10-11-2009, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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So what squashed the value on this car? Lack of racing history? That very red interior? A bad economy for even the well healed? Again, I'm really puzzled why this car didn't fetch a whole lot more. And the yellow Gurney race car (the other poster boy of the event) barely gaveled at $200K!?!
I saw more well bought cars (too many to list) this weekend than well sold (a couple of the Camaro/Chevelle pro touring cars fetched stupid money...more than you could duplicating on your own).
-Dean
P.S. Nice pics. Thanks for posting these!
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10-12-2009, 01:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
Posts: 6,592
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According to a wrap up on Speed Channel it brought the top bid of all the cars.......$400 large. Nice car!
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10-12-2009, 09:08 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Maybe it was the angle that he had to sign, but Shelby's signature looked pretty squirrely. 
The other explanation is that they have a Carroll Shelby signature machine at headquarters signing all of the other stuff that people send in.
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10-12-2009, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
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This Cobra should have brought well over a half mil. If the economy holds for a few more years, it'll probably still fetch way over that. I think all the alcohol-induced 'emotion' money was spent on customs. Rick Hendrick bought a few really nice muscle cars. Stallone paid 180 k for an 'over-the-top' custom Corvette. "Different strokes for different folks".
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10-13-2009, 11:16 AM
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Somebody get me straight here. One good friend thinks this car was bought back by the owner, having paid over 500+ for the car perhaps a year or so ago.
If true, an expensive weekend show... perhaps 45K out-of-pocket.
Non-reserve auctions are good for buyers in down-markets. Not so great for sellers.
i don't honestly know.
Some folks think the current market for authentic, non-race 289's is around $400K.
Doesn't mean it is so, of course. But, they are probably NOT up at 550-600 any longer.
Good time to buy?
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10-13-2009, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by What'saCobra?
Somebody get me straight here. One good friend thinks this car was bought back by the owner, having paid over 500+ for the car perhaps a year or so ago.
If true, an expensive weekend show... perhaps 45K out-of-pocket.
Non-reserve auctions are good for buyers in down-markets. Not so great for sellers.
i don't honestly know.
Some folks think the current market for authentic, non-race 289's is around $400K.
Doesn't mean it is so, of course. But, they are probably NOT up at 550-600 any longer.
Good time to buy?
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It definitely changed hands. I spoke with both seller and buyer after the auction. |
10-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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Glad to hear that it really sold.
Wonder if he was speaking of another car?
Will research.
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10-13-2009, 11:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by What'saCobra?
Glad to hear that it really sold.
Wonder if he was speaking of another car?
Will research.
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Barrett-Jackson has checks and balances that are supposed to prevent shill bids. Such processes are not foolproof but for the most part it's an ethical process. |
10-13-2009, 12:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Although a car at auction being bought back by the seller/owner is not necessarily shill bidding.
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10-13-2009, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by What'saCobra?
Somebody get me straight here. One good friend thinks this car was bought back by the owner,
Good time to buy?
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No, this was a legit auction and the car has officially changed hands. Is it a good time to buy, in the case of the Ray Allen Chevelle drag car.
The answer is yes for the buyer, but no for the seller.
Bill S.
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10-13-2009, 08:44 PM
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Correct. A buy-back is not at all a shill bid under most cases... far to costly an experience. It is typically rather an example of a failed auction strategy on the buyer's part. Should have set a reserve and paid for it, if the prices are dropping.
It would be unwise for anyone to believe there are foolproof auction controls over any part of the process, including timely remittance of funds and delivery of cars. Find out where your car is going for secure storage until you get the doe-ray-me.
We all watched REIT real-estate swaps to "fix" (hide) poorly performing mortgages in the past and strange price increases of rather common Ferrari's "sold" between dealers at auction in the early years after Enzo's demise.
Guess i won't sell baby just yet. Got to tell wifey the new house must wait, perhaps another year.
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