Continuation Cars

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by SunDude

This is an interesting thread.

It was my understanding that, for the CSX4000/6000 continuation series Cobras, Shelby Autos was producing original-style, round-tube chassis frames using tooling that was made by Mike McCluskey for the so-called "completion cars," and that the aluminum, fibreglass and carbon-fibre bodies were sourced from third-party vendors (i.e., Kirkham, Hi-Tech, HST and so on).

So my question is: Is Hi-Tech Automotive supplying Shelby Autos with fibreglass bodies only? Or are they producing a rolling chassis, similar to the Superformance cars? Do the new CSX4000/6000s use the original round-tube frames, or are they using the same square-tube chassis as the SPF cars?

I don't think this was made clear in the other posts.

My HST-built carbon fiber (CSX4005LA) has a round tube frame.

[xlr8or]

Now that the original question is all cleared up can we start the Evan bashing??

Just kidding Evan. This actually stayed pretty civil.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by xlr8or

Now that the original question is all cleared up can we start the Evan bashing??

Just kidding Evan. This actually stayed pretty civil.

I'm still reeling from the fact that he invoked the name of my favorite superhero since childhood. Now I have to go and pick another superhero, since he's tarnished Spiderman.

[REAL 1]

Rodknock: Ssshhh, don't tell anyone.....I am Spiderman.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Rodknock: Ssshhh, don't tell anyone.....I am Spiderman.

uh-huh.....

[jhv48]

I always heard that those "leftover frames I had stored in a warehouse that I forgot about" was a bogus ploy by CS to build some more outrageously expensive "original cobras".

But California caught on and denied the registrations.

Fact or fiction?

[Excaliber]

SPF, it's just a licensed Shelby product. Got a coffee mug you would like to associate with Shelby to increase sales? No problem, pay the licensing fee and your in. That doesn't make it a genuine or real Shelby product, but, hopefully, it is a nice coffee mug.

In some cases somebody might fudge the advertising just enough to lead a potential buyer into thinking it's a "real" or "genuine" Shelby coffee mug, it is not. It's JUST another coffee mug among the thousands of coffee mugs available all over the world. What makes THIS mug special is it's association with a powerful "brand name" through a paid endorsement licensing deal.

Now what Evan has is in fact a genuine Shelby product, not a license deal, it is the "real" deal.

[RodKnock]

Ernie, you may get the SPF owners upset, since you're comparing the SPF to a coffee mug.

[Excaliber]

...it's a very nice mug you see, not some made in China mug. This would be a genuine South Africa mug.

[dcdoug]

But the Continuation 4000/6000 cars have 1965 MSO's. So how did that happen? Is that because he relocated to Vegas (not sure when he opened a plant in Vegas, sorry if that's a dumb question, I probably should know that), or does that not have anything to do with it?

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

Is that because he relocated to Vegas ?

[A-Snake]

Quoted from the 2008 SAAC World Registry,

“CSX4000 Manufacturer’s Statement of Origin (MSO).

The model year, given as “1965” on all CSX4000 MSO’s, is actually incorrect because it is supposed to indicate the actual year the car was manufactured. Instead, Shelby American used it to describe the year of the car they were building (because it was a recreation of a car that had been built in 1965). They were concerned that describing the car as a current year (i.e. 1997) model would mean that it had to comply with safety and emission requirements for a new car. This sidestep eliminated that problem for Shelby, but has caused problems for owners later on when they attempted to register and/or insure their cars because DMVs or insurance companies caught the discrepancy of a car that was constructed in, say, 1997 as being described as a 1965 model on the paperwork. Fortunately, most states are rewriting their motor vehicle laws where street rods and replica vehicles are concerned and allowing them to be registered as the year of the car they most resemble”

By the way the Registry is available for purchase at

http://www.saac.com/index.php?page=s...hk=1&Itemid=45

[dcdoug]

Interestingly, the NADA site, which is what DC uses as the exclusive determination of value for any used car, lists Continuation 4000 series cars as 1965 model year......http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...i=86228&d=6292

Glad it does or I would have had a lot of difficulty getting mine registered......

[Got the Bug]

Hey, whatya say we start a new thread exactly like this thread in say a month or two so we can re-visit history and confirm the facts.

I'm going to take my "South African coffee mug" out for a drive tomorrow.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

Hey, whatya say we start a new thread exactly like this thread in say a month or two so we can re-visit history and confirm the facts.

I'm going to take my "South African coffee mug" out for a drive tomorrow.

So, you're telling me that the completion cars and continuation cars have been discussed before?

[STL Mark]

And what a great day for coffee today. Got the old mug up past 100, plenty of waves from other coffee lovers, wind in my hair and home without a problem. Damn I love coffee in my oh-so-special component assembled, officially licensed, 1965 titled, 650 horse-powered, neighbor disturbing, tire spinning, gas guzzling - MUG !

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by STL Mark

And what a great day for coffee today. Got the old mug up past 100, plenty of waves from other coffee lovers, wind in my hair and home without a problem. Damn I love coffee in my oh-so-special component assembled, officially licensed, 1965 titled, 650 horse-powered, neighbor disturbing, tire spinning, gas guzzling - MUG !

Excellent! The first step to recovery is awareness of the replica Tupperware enclosure that you're driving.

[STL Mark]

NO WAY MAN - this ain't no Tupperware. I'm deeply offended that you would refer to my mug as tupperware. There are hundreds of differences between common tupperware and my very special mug. In fact, my mug is registered in a book with other special mugs - so I know it's special. I paid more for my mug than you paid for your mug - it's a REAL mug. Not everybody can get a mug like this one, and you can get tupperware at Wal-Mart. So, just drop that whole tupperware thang.

[RodKnock]

Maybe Kramer will come out with a "Mug Book."

I bet everyone when they waved said "Look at that mug."

[STL Mark]

Yep - and a guy at the gas station asked if it was a REAL mug - I said YES.