smog nazi's

[vettestr]

Originally Posted by DWRAT

May you can put 2 cocks in it and that will pass.

You are just sick !

[Cobrabill]

Go to a dealer and get a print out of the exhaust systen parts for your year.

[vettestr]

Been there but Info not kept in their system after 10 years so must go to Dodge, that is where I am at. The parts catalog shows (parts no longer supported or stocked). Old info shows was W and WO available but no direction if original equipment.

[Cobrabill]

Can i lend you my flamethrower?

[DWRAT]

Cat Killer,
If you do end up needing to put a cat back on, I found a local guy with a used 4" cat that will sell for $50.00.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/pts/1561677696.html

[vettestr]

I'LL TAKE IT !!! Thanks I will call you

[vettestr]

The original build documentation for my 96 Dodge dually with a 12 valve Cummins was located at Dodge. My truck was not shipped with a catalytic converter. I will have this document faxed to a local dealer per their SOP. This adds additional traceability to the document is my guess.

I was told even a fax may take up to 48 hrs before sent but this is great news. I hope this is the end to this horror story but I still must get somebody to issue a PASS certif.

[vettestr]

Originally Posted by vettestr

The original build documentation for my 96 Dodge dually with a 12 valve Cummins was located at Dodge. My truck was not shipped with a catalytic converter. I will have this document faxed to a local dealer per their SOP. This adds additional traceability to the document is my guess.

I was told even a fax may take up to 48 hrs before sent but this is great news. I hope this is the end to this horror story but I still must get somebody to issue a PASS certify.

Well this past Friday I took the documentation from Dodge Corp. back to the original Smog station and talked to the same supervisor. He refused to issue a PASS certificate claiming the truck needs a Cat Convert per his documentation and I could protest with the State.

I made appointment with the State and headed across town to their offices. I showed them the documents showing truck never had a Cat. They looked up the spec's and also said it needs a Cat. I convinced them to call Corp. Dodge and gave them a number and department Supervisors name that sent me my paperwork. Dodge told them (the State guy) that the truck was not manufactured or shipped with a Cat. Conv. per the original VIN # provided. The State claims if it was shipped without a Cat then Dodge violated the Reg's but they don't care why .... to get a PASS certificate it must have a CAT added. Can you say I"M Screw'd

[DWRAT]

It would still be a good idea to put a cat on your truck for environmental purposes.

Your favorite president would love you long time for that.

Otherwise, Cap & Trade may be affecting you soon.

[Danr55]

"I'm screwed"... sounds like you are too!

[vettestr]

I met with a few folks at a local Dodge dealership yesterday. A complete search showed no Cat. Convert. on this truck when my VIN was used as a search filter nor others without the VIN filter. Continued research and various department managers lead me to the dealership GM. He agreed to take a look at what I and his folks had found.

Our meeting ended with him making a few calls to folks with a lot more horsepower than me investigating my options. So far I have been told it left Dodge without a Cat. Conv.

A generic Cat. Conv. from Autozone for the truck retails for $487.00 and then costs to modify current system and install labor. I do have the option to keep truck out of the county and register in Flag where I have a house but I loose use of truck here in Phx. I also face possible Fed charges if I knowingly sell truck to person in AZ. Smog counties without the Cat. installed.

[DWRAT]

Would you just put a old used Cat on it and be done with this.

You talk about me and the way I carry on about things and it is nothing compared to you and this Cat situation.

Bend over and put the cat on.

[Car Nut]

Originally Posted by vettestr

I met with a few folks at a local Dodge dealership yesterday. A complete search showed no Cat. Convert. on this truck when my VIN was used as a search filter nor others without the VIN filter. Continued research and various department managers lead me to the dealership GM. He agreed to take a look at what I and his folks had found.

Our meeting ended with him making a few calls to folks with a lot more horsepower than me investigating my options. So far I have been told it left Dodge without a Cat. Conv.

A generic Cat. Conv. from Autozone for the truck retails for $487.00 and then costs to modify current system and install labor. I do have the option to keep truck out of the county and register in Flag where I have a house but I loose use of truck here in Phx. I also face possible Fed charges if I knowingly sell truck to person in AZ. Smog counties without the Cat. installed.

Come pickup your truck, and bring my money.

[DWRAT]

Originally Posted by Car Nut

Come pickup your truck, and bring my money.

Did you put a cat on Jeff's truck for him?

If you did, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I've never heard a grown man cry like a little baby for 2 weeks straight.

[Karl Bebout]

Shots fired!

[Car Nut]

Drip drip drip

[John-Tucson]

How much does a For Sale sign cost in Flagstaff ?

[vettestr]

John,
I don't want to sell the old dually, love the truck. With 4:11 gears and that Cummins I can pull houses of their foundations. Never know when that will come in handy.

In the end I will install a Cat if I have to, darn hard to fight city hall and win. In the end I will have to prove their BOOK is wrong. I am not ready to give up yet though. Corp.Dodge is writing me a letter so I will wait and see if that works.

[John-Tucson]

Hey Jeff, do you have a decent State Representative in your area that might go to bat for you ? It never hurts to have one branch of the government question another branch. I know how you feel about the truck.

[DWRAT]

Hum, my next store neighbor is the state representative for distric 10 and was speaker of the house for the last 2 years for my area.
I could hook you up with him if you need.