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Old 08-06-2014, 07:28 PM
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Technology keeps changing so fast so I am looking for the best "out of sight" unit out there that has jamming capabilities. Maybe a installed hidden unit? What say all you guys that know. Cost isn't a concern just effectiveness.
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I don't know about jammers, but I doubt any will work against laser or lidar. Escort is the best overall detector and the app escort live works about as well as it can.

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Valentine V-1.

It has saved my bacon more times than I can count. Especially when there are multiple bogies coming from different directions. Nothing beats the directional arrows. I have an escort that sits in a drawer.
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I've used both. Prefer the V1.
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I don't know about jammers, but I doubt any will work against laser or lidar. Escort is the best overall detector and the app escort live works about as well as it can.

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Thanks for the app info, I just loaded it and we will see if it works.
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Hands down, V1. But here in CA, speeding is futile. They need their money and will catch you even with a detector.
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Why bother? Only Andy and Barney have any radar that can be detected by these. If you get spotted by a laser detector you're toast anyway. As my friend says "keep it under a hundred"...
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New Blinder HP-905 Compact Laser Defense system X-TREME Police Laser gun Jammer No more speeding tickets!
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Been using this for 2 years after catching a ticket. Only down side is like said above, if catch with Lazer you are toast. Doesn't matter who you have. Some state will rip out your unit if catch with one. Jammers don't work unless on top of Police unit. They are against alot of state laws for illegal signals being produced with out a permit. Rick L.
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The only way to beat laser and instant-on radar with any radar detector is to NEVER be the lead dog when speeding. First guy gets the laser ticket, second guy gets the warning on his detector and has a chance to back off before he gets targeted.

Whenever we travel the interstate, we always try to tuck in behind the speeding BMW. Back just far enough to have time to slow down when he is targeted.

Instant on and laser are impossible to react to unless you are next in line. Remember, the second mouse gets the cheese!
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As a police officer for the past 20 years, I believe the Valentine One is the best protection you can get. Some of the other models may have a slight range advantage, but they do not tell you how many radar units are operating, or where. The Valentine One provides this essential information, and they have the option of remote mounting. I have even seen aftermarket rear view mirrors with the display stealthily integrated into the mirror itself to work with the remote use feature. In my opinion, the Valentine One offers the best protection and a nice variety of clean, tasteful, and stealthy mounting options.

There are a lot of officers out there who write tickets like they are in some kind of contest (unfortunately, there are state-sponsored contests around the holidays, and during campaigns like "click it or ticket", during which you can win a nifty clipboard in exchange for ruining the driving records, causing insurance increases, and providing a financial hardship for hundreds of people in a weekend). Although I am radar certified, I do not like to write tickets. I believe tickets are priced way too high, and hurt everyday people. During the recession, our state wasn't getting enough money and doubled the price of tickets, along with driver licenses, vehicle registration, and other essential things. The last speeding ticket I wrote was in 2005 or 2006, because you have to do something really stupid to make me write a ticket you have to pay. The only reason I even got radar certified in the first place was because I wanted to ride the motorcycle, which required an assignment to traffic. I figured the only thing better than riding was getting paid to ride. Two weeks after I was moved to traffic, our agency got rid of the motors. I wrote several hundreds of warnings, however. The administrators always say tickets are about educating people, not about money, so who says they can't be educated with a warning? At least that's the argument I used when they gave me a hard time about my lack of citation numbers.

The radar is a device which does not tell you which vehicle is committing the violation; it merely gives you a number and an audio Doppler tone. The determination on which vehicle is producing the reading is up to the operator. Although there are more sophisticated units on the market now, they do still emit a radio signal. In our area, it is either K (24.15ghz) or Ka band (33.4-36ghz). I have never seen an X-band radar unit, and I'm not even sure if they are still in use anywhere. Laser is much more precise, but detectors can pick up reflections if they are targeting someone else, so you still have a fighting chance. Also, all of the lasers I know of have to be used from a stationary position. One reason is they require you to look through a scope-type device, and the second is I don't believe they have the ability to compensate for the speed of patrol vehicle while moving. At the very least, a radar / laser detector will afford you some warning these devices are in operation in your immediate vicinity, and allow you to take corrective action. In my opinion, the Valentine One does the best job at giving you the information necessary to protect yourself.
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I was going to say...that round thing on your dash is the best radar unit available....
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I go with the Valentine as well have been using them for years. Like everyone else it has saved me a ton of times, especially in the Vette driving across country!! It tracks from the front and rear at all times.
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As a police officer for the past 20 years, I believe the Valentine One is the best protection you can get. Some of the other models may have a slight range advantage, but they do not tell you how many radar units are operating, or where. The Valentine One provides this essential information, and they have the option of remote mounting. I have even seen aftermarket rear view mirrors with the display stealthily integrated into the mirror itself to work with the remote use feature. In my opinion, the Valentine One offers the best protection and a nice variety of clean, tasteful, and stealthy mounting options.

There are a lot of officers out there who write tickets like they are in some kind of contest (unfortunately, there are state-sponsored contests around the holidays, and during campaigns like "click it or ticket", during which you can win a nifty clipboard in exchange for ruining the driving records, causing insurance increases, and providing a financial hardship for hundreds of people in a weekend). Although I am radar certified, I do not like to write tickets. I believe tickets are priced way too high, and hurt everyday people. During the recession, our state wasn't getting enough money and doubled the price of tickets, along with driver licenses, vehicle registration, and other essential things. The last speeding ticket I wrote was in 2005 or 2006, because you have to do something really stupid to make me write a ticket you have to pay. The only reason I even got radar certified in the first place was because I wanted to ride the motorcycle, which required an assignment to traffic. I figured the only thing better than riding was getting paid to ride. Two weeks after I was moved to traffic, our agency got rid of the motors. I wrote several hundreds of warnings, however. The administrators always say tickets are about educating people, not about money, so who says they can't be educated with a warning? At least that's the argument I used when they gave me a hard time about my lack of citation numbers.

The radar is a device which does not tell you which vehicle is committing the violation; it merely gives you a number and an audio Doppler tone. The determination on which vehicle is producing the reading is up to the operator. Although there are more sophisticated units on the market now, they do still emit a radio signal. In our area, it is either K (24.15ghz) or Ka band (33.4-36ghz). I have never seen an X-band radar unit, and I'm not even sure if they are still in use anywhere. Laser is much more precise, but detectors can pick up reflections if they are targeting someone else, so you still have a fighting chance. Also, all of the lasers I know of have to be used from a stationary position. One reason is they require you to look through a scope-type device, and the second is I don't believe they have the ability to compensate for the speed of patrol vehicle while moving. At the very least, a radar / laser detector will afford you some warning these devices are in operation in your immediate vicinity, and allow you to take corrective action. In my opinion, the Valentine One does the best job at giving you the information necessary to protect yourself.
Good to hear you are fairer than most. My wife received a rolling right on red in Redwood City CA and it cost us $600. Tickets are supposed to be punitive, they aren't supposed to generate revenue. Completely unethical in my view.
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I'd say $600.00 for a right on red is excessive. Was there proper posting of the prohibition of a right turn on red, or were they being technical because she did not come to a complete stop first? A lot of government employees forget they work for the people, and not just in law enforcement, either. If somebody makes an effort to stop and ensures the way is clear, then I say that should be good enough. The law is written for safety, not to facilitate silly traffic stops and issuing outrageously priced traffic citations. If you're upshifting as you go through the stop sign or turning right on red, then that probably deserves attention. The "rollers" who have taken the steps necessary to ensure it is safe to proceed shouldn't be bothered.
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Has anyone used "The Blinder" mentioned in the link several replies back?
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I loaded the phone ap last night and used it this am heading to work.
Lots of info on that ap.
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"The only way to beat laser and instant-on radar with any radar detector is to NEVER be the lead dog when speeding. First guy gets the laser ticket, second guy gets the warning on his detector and has a chance to back off before he gets targeted."

This is exactly why Ralphie or Danr get chosen to lead us when we go for a "spirited" cruise.
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Ratty,

"I loaded the phone ap last night and used it this am heading to work.
Lots of info on that ap."

Looked it up and all I found was $99 and required having an Escort detector. Anything I missed?
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Just load it, it's free. You can join up for extra services but I passed.
No dector needed but if you have one you get more info again.
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