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01-03-2007, 09:06 PM
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These are not replicas as they are built in an identical way to the original. All vintage race cars are really replicas as most only have the serial numbers and small pieces from the original car. There are some exceptions but most have been crashed and repaired so many times that the original stuff is gone. These cars are from the original drawings and are as accurate as a Kirkham, actually more so as the original designer has a piece of the action. Personally, I couldn't care less if it is a replica or not, same way I feel about Cobras, but this is a really cheap vintage racer that will win many races. It sounds really good as well.  Go here and click and listen!
Latest Results of the Continuation Cheetah
$85K is diddly squat for a car like this, I have $35K in a Mustang Trans Am replica car.. and it is really slow by comparison...
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01-04-2007, 08:43 PM
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These are not replicas
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What are they there not originals?
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This sounds like when old man shelby found some old chassis old in the desert he forgot about. With Vin# Shazam!
Maybe the 50K is his cut?
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01-04-2007, 09:40 PM
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What are they there not originals?
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This sounds like when old man shelby found some old chassis old in the desert he forgot about. With Vin# Shazam!
Maybe the 50K is his cut?
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When the original designer produces an identical car that is an exact copy of the original ,it is not a replica. If Shelby were to produce original Cobras having AC make the bodywork and using the identical specs, that would not be a replica either. That would be the same car just as if General Motors made exact copies of a 1957 Chevrolet Corvette race car. It would be a 1957 Chevrolet Corvette period. The fact that it is made today would make no difference, it would be what it is. If you only planned to use it on a race track, it would be the identical car to the original, tech spec car and would therefore be legal and welcome at all Vintage events including FIA events if it was type approved at the time(1957). The same is true of Shelby's aluminum continuation Cobra's , Jim Hall's 2E cars and the Cheetah's which we are speaking of here. If anyone else makes a copy of the car and it is not authorized or built in the same way it is not welcome at a vintage event like VARA or General Racing, LeMans vintage events, etc. That is why Shelby CSX cars can run in Vintage events and Superformance, factory five etc are not welcome. I think that there is a general misunderstanding on the topic, so there is a clarification. Now , can we go back to our tour? Thanks
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01-04-2007, 10:07 PM
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When the original designer produces an identical car that is an exact copy of the original ,it is not a replica.
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OK.
...but that's not the case here, it seems.
From their website:
"...with my consent, BTM LLC of Arizona has full exclusive authority to reproduce the original Bill Thomas Cheetah..."
-Bill Thomas
Seems more like a licensing deal than "the original designer produces..."
When the factory burned down...that was the end of "original" Cheetahs.
The new stuff is what homage is made of...
But, it is very cool that Vintage regs have changed to allow modern "recreations" to participate... that will very much help the sport.
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01-04-2007, 10:20 PM
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Now it's clear!
But why are the CSX-4000 (Continuation/ REPOPS) cars worth 100,000 and the ORIGINALS worth 600,000+ Since there all the same? Would you think it had something to do with them being built in the 60s and ORIGINALS built at AC cars?
And not by I need Your Money For My Hart Fund and i build replicas Too but there not
replicas because i said so C Shelby...
The last time i checked it was 2007 not 1964 and no matter how hard you try it's a replica!
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01-05-2007, 09:59 AM
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Now , can we go back to our tour? Thanks
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Ford reproduces Mustangs and 500's every day...
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