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Old 02-25-2008, 02:53 PM
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They safe guard against not only operator mistakes but some mechanical failures as well.

TKO's have been reported here sticking in gear, clutch master cylinders failing.

All the more reason with this "history" to use both switches in series. I believe in the right of an individual to endanger himself, endangering others is a different matter. Like saftey belts, you want to get thrown out of your car fine, but I have a problem with where your empty car ends up.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's being a good neighbor. Doubt I'll change everyones mind on this but maybe someone with think twice about it.
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They safe guard against not only operator mistakes but some mechanical failures as well.

TKO's have been reported here sticking in gear, clutch master cylinders failing.

All the more reason with this "history" to use both switches in series. I believe in the right of an individual to endanger himself, endangering others is a different matter. Like saftey belts, you want to get thrown out of your car fine, but I have a problem with where your empty car ends up.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's being a good neighbor. Doubt I'll change everyones mind on this but maybe someone with think twice about it.
Ron,your first two sentences confirm that you have no idea how things really work.

And now you're going to tell us being a "good neighboor"involves putting a useless(YES,USELESS) device in my car?

I think you'd be much happier driving a Volvo
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They safe guard against not only operator mistakes but some mechanical failures as well.

TKO's have been reported here sticking in gear, clutch master cylinders failing.
Now here is a reason NOT to have the neutral safety switch hooked up. Clutch master fails,... no need for a flatbed. Start it in gear from the stop sign/light, rev match your shifts, and make sure you're in neutral when you stop. Kill the motor, and start in gear to get going again. It IS a very slow, controlled leave from a stop. It will also allow you to move your car from the RR tracks, the middle of an intersection, or some other undesirable location, when you can't get the motor going again, and you don't have time to wait around for Barney.

I'm not sure I see how the switch helps with the stuck gear thing,...? Seems like that would be better w/o the switch.

I will NOT let anybody that I want to keep alive, drive this car, regardless of the extensive safety equipment it has!
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As far as the stuck gear, I've seen posts where the cars were parked in gear and stuck there. Evedently the selector rods get hung.

There will always be stories of how this or that happened and thank god I wasn't wearing my seat belt or a helmet on my motorcycle. I've heard lots of these over the years.

I also know the difference between a hot rod and a timebomb. The biggest saftey factor is the person behind the wheel, assuming you never make a mistake or that someone is "just a moron".

There are people that will wire the guard back on their saw no matter who tells them it's a bad idea. Some of them no doubt feel that if you need it your an idiot.

I'm done pi**ing now, I appreciate the "open mindedness".
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As far as the stuck gear, I've seen posts where the cars were parked in gear and stuck there. Evedently the selector rods get hung.
Right, I know that, but the neutral switch would prevent you from limping your way home. This is a "why not to" answer, that's all.

The helmets, belts, saws, morons, and pi55ing,...
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"Right, I know that, but the neutral switch would prevent you from limping your way home."

Yes this was brought up early on and I can see the value in that. I respoded by saying that you could wire a momentary contact switch across the interlocks next to the starter switch for use in such cases.

As far as saftey concerns making me a pu$$y, well I've been called worse. A convertable with extremely high HP/weight ratio will never be "safe". However tossing aside things you can do because "the car can kill me anyway!" or "I'm the best driver in the world!" isn't a great frame of mind either.

Bill read what I said "both switches in series" your thinking parallel.

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