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Old 01-27-2009, 07:37 AM
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Bill,

'Mythbusters' did a whole show on the products advertised to beat photo radar (including the spray stuff), their findings were that none of the products were effective...

There was a pretty good article in Car&Driver about the photo-radar scam (will see if I can find it later and post) - bottom line; when the radar didn't produce enough revenue for the company managing it, they invoked a clause in the contract to shorten the time span between the yellow and red lights to cause more red-light runs, ugh!

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'Mythbusters' did a whole show on the products advertised to beat photo radar (including the spray stuff), their findings were that none of the products were effective..

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The Mythbusters did eventually beat the speed camera. They did it with speed using a jet dragster doing about 300 mph no photo recorded.
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Here is this topic yet again.
I went to the town meeting in Scottsdale about two years ago where the fixed cameras were to be debated by the citizens. I know that you will be pleased to hear that 11 old people caused the cameras to be permanent. There were only 3 of us who showed up to debate with reason against the cameras but the majority ruled. It is great to piss and moan about the law but the usual apathy caused this to happen, nothing else. There were only 14 people at the meeting and I took my wife or there would have been only 2 to debate this stupidity.

I did , however , learn a ton of things about the cameras and the company that installs , maintains and sends the citations from them for free. They get more that 40% of the "revenue". I kid you not, that is how it was described.
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The Scottsdale Loop 101 cameras took 225,000 pics in the first 6 months. They issued 15,000 tickets.

If you exceed 135 mph , the camera will not get you. They told of many of these. Wheelies on Motorbikes also cause the plate to be unreadable.

The most common reason for the pics being rejected? "Duckers" their term once again.

License plate covers are not legal and they will start handing out tickets based on the "Non Obscured Arizona" law. Those things make it difficult to read the state name - good enough for the police. I do not have endless time to go to court, so I have no license frames or covers.

If you avoid being served, good for you, they will still convict you based on the photo they mailed to you. This happened to one of my employees in 2007 who was pulled over for crossing the solid line in a merge lane on the 202 (another stupid law and big no-no) . His license had been suspended in absentia for over 8 months. He did not know. They towed his car and left him on the side of the 202 where I came to get him about 30 minutes later. It cost $800 to get his pickup truck back. Anglo Saxon, by the way before the comments....

The Vans with cameras are more easily dealt with. My Valentine One absolutely gives me sufficient warning to slow down. I have not had one ticket from radar since I bought it.

The talk about the deficit has merit in the discussion, however since it is only $125- a person, why don't I offer to pay my $250- and let's move on. Any reason you all could not pay $125 per person in your house?
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How about if no one speeds or runs a red light for a few months?

No tickets issued thus no revenue thus removal! Cities are not going to pay for maintenance and upkeep on something that doesn't generate revenue!

Simple, huh?
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How about if no one speeds or runs a red light for a few months?

No tickets issued thus no revenue thus removal! Cities are not going to pay for maintenance and upkeep on something that doesn't generate revenue!

Simple, huh?
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Wheelies......also cause the plate to be unreadable.

Good news for Karl!
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