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Old 08-17-2010, 10:15 PM
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Russ,

I recently purchased BRI 1185040, 396, Jaguar IRS, automatic (not sure yet what tranny it has). This car was originally purchased by Phillip Kraft of Kraft Industries in Oceanside Ca in 1986. My understanding is that Mr. Kraft was quite the car collector. I have some of the original documentation - "Butler Built!" price list etc.

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Old 08-17-2010, 10:46 PM
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Congratulations on your adoption. It's nice to see a post on this thread. It seems to have gone dorment. Post some photos when you get a chance. But read how to, which is posted on this forum. Otherwise you will get frustrated with the uploading process. Or perhaps you already know how.

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Bill,

Congratulations on your purchase of Butler #40. Nice to hear from you.

Send my as much information on your car as you can. I will list it in the registry. Contact info would be also be great.

As Arthur said, it it nice to find another one. We have only found a half dozen or so. Please be on the lookout for other Butlers. If you find one or know of someone, please urge them to post and tell us about the car.

Thanks again Bill and welcome to this madness.

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I posted a picture of the hood of my Butler, it has an odd cutout, sort of a tongue near the windshield, is this typical for a Butler? Also my driver's side has a 4 point harness, I'd like to add a harness to the passenger side but that side has no roll bar to attach it to. Any ideas?

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Old 09-21-2010, 05:02 AM
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I posted a picture of the hood of my Butler, it has an odd cutout, sort of a tongue near the windshield, is this typical for a Butler? Also my driver's side has a 4 point harness, I'd like to add a harness to the passenger side but that side has no roll bar to attach it to. Any ideas?

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I think you have the same thing as i got. These were basically left over Arntz cars that Butler built. From what I am told, mine was basically built by Arntz, but not completed. Butler finished the rest of the car some years later after Arntz disappeared.

I do not see your pictures.

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Old 09-21-2010, 11:11 AM
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Bill has posted two pictures in his Public Profile Album.

Hope this helps you find it.

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Wow..thanks! I never knew that was there. I was looking in the gallery.

That is definitely somebody's custom handiwork on the hood notch. It looks like they bonded a scoop to the hood and cut that portion out themselves. They did a nice job.

Some of the Type 4 Arntz had a notch similar to that, but they are very square looking in comparison. It was most likely done for the distributor on a SBC.

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I posted a picture of the hood of my Butler, it has an odd cutout, sort of a tongue near the windshield, is this typical for a Butler? Also my driver's side has a 4 point harness, I'd like to add a harness to the passenger side but that side has no roll bar to attach it to. Any ideas?

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I believe that the modification to your hood was done to accomodate the distributor when using the larger displacement chevy motor. As for your harness, it can be fairly easily mounted to the rear body mounted roll hoop in your trunk area.
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Welcome back to the forum. And, congratulations on owning a Butler. Sounds like it may in fact be the first Butler. Cool.

I talk to Ron regularly, so I'll ask him about the BRI000.

As for the notch, yes that was done to accommodate the distributor on the Chevy's which some have said was Arntz's motor of choice.

So, get us some pictures of that car and give me the information so I can get you in the Registry.

Where in California are you located?
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