Club Cobra Gas - N Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > Arntz/Butler Forum

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By joyridin'
  • 1 Post By

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2012, 04:54 AM
joyridin''s Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,696
Not Ranked     
Default

Sorry, but the Chevy engine IS a problem. Mine has one and the first thing 95% of the people say is "Oh..it has a Chevy engine".

Butler and Arntz were great cars, but they are basically old school in the big picture of things. Since some of you have spent thousands upgrading the front suspension, you already know what I mean.
Roncal1 likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2012, 11:26 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 5
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks for all of the input. When I bought the car, originality wasn't my main concern. I rather liked that it had the Chevy engine and the more modern appearance of the squared off hood scoop. I know I may be the minority among enthusiasts but that's partly why it will be so hard for me to let this one go .

Does anyone know if Butler is still building cars? I was surprised when I found out this one was built as recently as 2008.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2012, 02:16 PM
Got the Bug's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
Posts: 4,098
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomMachine View Post
Thanks for all of the input. When I bought the car, originality wasn't my main concern. I rather liked that it had the Chevy engine and the more modern appearance of the squared off hood scoop. I know I may be the minority among enthusiasts but that's partly why it will be so hard for me to let this one go .

Does anyone know if Butler is still building cars? I was surprised when I found out this one was built as recently as 2008.
I thought I read that Butler stopped making cars in the mid-80's. The owner must have set the project aside or bought an unfinished kit for it to be completed in 2008.

Good luck on the sale.
__________________
Doug

No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2012, 06:07 PM
Donunder's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brisbane Australia. Cobra:Arntz Chev 454,
Posts: 847
Not Ranked     
Default

Hey FM, I've been thinking..
Are you sure there isn't another way to finance graduate school?

Butlers aren't exactly plentiful, and as Joyridin says they are somewhat "old school" which to my mind adds to their desirability. They're built tough and they're heavier than a lot of the other makes but good old BB Chevy grunt takes care of that.

My car was built in 1979 and even though it's a low mileage example like yours, I felt it prudent to replace the original MGB front end (which was readily available at the time) with something lighter and more in line with modern suspension and steering thinking. This was purely a personal thing, and I know of other Arntz/Butlers around that lead a very active life, still with the original front ends. I'm not sure but I doubt that as yours is a recent build, it would have MGB componentry up front anyway.

There will be any number of other Cobra replicas to buy later, but once your Butler has gone the odds of getting another one in the future will be slim. Why not keep it, have another scoop fitted if you want, and just enjoy something that's very desirable and somehow unique in the Cobra world?
__________________
Don.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2012, 11:08 PM
Donunder's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brisbane Australia. Cobra:Arntz Chev 454,
Posts: 847
Not Ranked     
Default

PS: There's always this to consider too. A piece of history that even the most one-eyed Ford guys can't argue with...

Carroll Shelby wanted to go with Chevy right from the start. It was only when the GM heirarchy pulled the pin on involving the company in motorsport that Shelby was forced to go to Ford, and the rest, as they say, is history.

Carroll Shelby

So FM, you have what Shelby wanted and couldn't get.
__________________
Don.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink