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Old 10-04-2017, 12:58 PM
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I have acquired what we believe is an Arntz or Arntz Butler Cobra kit (largely not assembled) from an estate. Due to the owner's passing, I have little information about it. We have the body and frame, small block Chevy with Muncie trans, Jaguar rear, and MG front suspension. Our plan is to sell the kit but we first want to determine exactly what we have. I have a number of photos but kept getting upload errors when I tried to attach to this post. If anyone thinks they can help me with this, I can send several photos. Thanks for your assistance.

Here's a link to several photos of this car. You'll need to copy and paste the link into your browser. I couldn't get the insert link function to work right. Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on its origin and build date.

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upload your photos to a web photo hosting site, such as google photos/images.
then you can drop the link into a drop down in the posting box and your photo will appear in the post, its not that hard really
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Do you have the MSO? Without that, you may be better off selling off the parts.
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Below is a rough guide from Jason Smith (former employee of Ron Butler) on way to tell the different "types" of Arntz Cobras:

• Type 1 cars were crude all around with poorly finished bodies, incomplete chassis and no safety cage.
• Type 2 cars got a nicer body, a complete stronger chassis and the safety cage.
• Type 3 cars got the best body with 'drip rails' at the hood and trunk openings where you would attach real weather stripping, nicer foot boxes, dash, wiring, etc. They were really starting to be a real car at this point, then it all ended when Arntz closed up shop. He sold his molds and parts to Ron Butler. The Butler bodies are Type 3 Arntz bodies - same mold. Ron continued to make improvements and refined the car into a really nice product and really the best version of the whole Arntz/Butler timeline.
• Type 4 car came about when Arntz returned from his time in South America. The car modifications done to the car are bit over the top, but technically interesting. There were only 16 made and 5 that anyone knows still exist.

From the pictures you showed, your car looks like a Type 1 or Type 2. Does it have a fabricated steel safety cage around the passenger compartment that is fiber-glassed into the body?
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Hello, just wanted to check in. I bought the Type 4 that Jason Smith had several years ago. I’ve been slowly chipping away at completing. I ended up getting boat fever and have been focusing on finishing a Cigarette boat the last few years. Just about done with boat and will start on finishing Cobra at that point.
I’d be happy to help anyone needing info on Arnzt Cobras.
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