Tow Car - What to buy?

[andyl]

Originally Posted by Rog246

Well nothings changed with Range Rover's then !
Why can't the Brits make a complete car that doesn't end up with some drama somewhere
You just don't seem to get those sorts of dramas with the stuff from Japan, maybe that's why the Toyota Pious sorry Prius owners are screaming

A mate in Sydney has/had a Range Rover Sport, reasonably late one and <50K on it, still under warranty. It broke down the other month and he towed it to the dealer who reported a brass bush in the fuel pump had flogged out. The quote to fix ... $24,000! Thats no typo, 24K. According to RR if this happens it needs a total rebuild of the engine as the brass goes through everything and traces are even injected into the engine clogging rings etc.

On asking for why it was not under warranty got back reply "because you must have put petrol in it instead". In the end he had the fuel tested and nope, all diesel to his delight so they did it under warranty.

If I owned one I'd be selling it pre-warranty expiration. He did the next week.

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by andyl

A mate in Sydney has/had a Range Rover Sport, reasonably late one and <50K on it, still under warranty. It broke down the other month and he towed it to the dealer who reported a brass bush in the fuel pump had flogged out. The quote to fix ... $24,000! Thats no typo, 24K. According to RR if this happens it needs a total rebuild of the engine as the brass goes through everything and traces are even injected into the engine clogging rings etc.

On asking for why it was not under warranty got back reply "because you must have put petrol in it instead". In the end he had the fuel tested and nope, all diesel to his delight so they did it under warranty.

If I owned one I'd be selling it pre-warranty expiration. He did the next week.

well what an exzageration, i think your mate is telling you porkies,i just booked my car in for its first service and incidently asked my dealer about the brass bush problem, heres the facts, the fuel pumps are built by an external supplier and are only fitted on earlier models. all of those cars have had a factory recall on them and are being repaired and paid for by the pump manfacturer. the engines do not need a full rebuild, and it does not cost $24000 to repair. even if the car was out of warranty it would have been fixed at no cost because it is a product recall in writing, why your mate was not aware of this i dont know, he obviosly didnt get the letter or failed to act on it or hes got a dodgy dealer. i found all this out with one simple phone call, get your facts straight before lodging threads about someones product secondhand, they cant be that unpopular if you want to order a new disco now, you might get one by december, they are probably the only car manfacturer worldwide that has been at full production even through the gfc..they cant build enough of em, i think that says it all.

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by andyl
[quote]A mate in Sydney has/had a Range Rover Sport, reasonably late one and <50K on it, still under warranty. It broke down the other month and he towed it to the dealer who reported a brass bush in the fuel pump had flogged out. The quote to fix ... $24,000! Thats no typo, 24K. According to RR if this happens it needs a total rebuild of the engine as the brass goes through everything and traces are even injected into the engine clogging rings etc.
On asking for why it was not under warranty got back reply "because you must have put petrol in it instead". In the end he had the fuel tested and nope, all diesel to his delight so they did it under warranty.[ QUOTE]

Mmmm .......me thinkin someone came from the.....70% of the people DONT KNOW that they DONT KNOW, Or the 15% that DO know that they DON'T know!!

[andyl]

[quote=OZCOBRA;1054637]Originally Posted by andyl

A mate in Sydney has/had a Range Rover Sport, reasonably late one and <50K on it, still under warranty. It broke down the other month and he towed it to the dealer who reported a brass bush in the fuel pump had flogged out. The quote to fix ... $24,000! Thats no typo, 24K. According to RR if this happens it needs a total rebuild of the engine as the brass goes through everything and traces are even injected into the engine clogging rings etc.
On asking for why it was not under warranty got back reply "because you must have put petrol in it instead". In the end he had the fuel tested and nope, all diesel to his delight so they did it under warranty.[ QUOTE]

Mmmm .......me thinkin someone came from the.....70% of the people DONT KNOW that they DONT KNOW, Or the 15% that DO know that they DON'T know!!

lol well how about this update I got today. I had thought he had sold it but on talking to him today hes only *tried* to sell it. On driving it last week it went in to limp home mode but couldn't even do that (limp home). The dealer picked it up and now reports that the computer got upset because the tyres had worn unevenly! lmao. He said they said it with a serious straight face too! Im sure the remedy offered once they "find out for sure" will be to buy 4 new tyres.

[OZCOBRA]

[quote=andyl;1054681]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Originally Posted by andyl


lol well how about this update I got today. I had thought he had sold it but on talking to him today hes only *tried* to sell it. On driving it last week it went in to limp home mode but couldn't even do that (limp home). The dealer picked it up and now reports that the computer got upset because the tyres had worn unevenly! lmao. He said they said it with a serious straight face too! Im sure the remedy offered once they "find out for sure" will be to buy 4 new tyres.

Well RR are not alone ,a mate of mine bought a brand spankin new VE SENATOR signed off threw him the keys got no more than 400mtrs down the road,phoned the dealer up and said come and pick me up!!!
Turns out the main computer in the car was trashed.
No prob's when it came to fix'n it and they gave him his pre-Delivery back as a good will gesture.

OZ

[FatBoy]

No contest, Range Rover TDV8. Then get it chipped by a reputable specialist i.e. JR Engineering and it will out run a Supercharged RR and still return sensible mileage.

I'm on my second RRS and I love it. I only live about 15 miles from where they're made, so they're a pretty common sight locally. My first was an early RRS TDV6, which suffered from soem niggling faults, but my TDV8 has been totally reliable and after being chipped, is a genuinely quick car for a big 4x4.
The Tow Assist is fantastic and you can tow at pretty much any speed with total confidence. The interior is a lovely place to spend time, especially the new ones.

Get a Range Rover, you won't regret it.

Paul

[andyl]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

well what an exzageration, i think your mate is telling you porkies,i just booked my car in for its first service and incidently asked my dealer about the brass bush problem, heres the facts, the fuel pumps are built by an external supplier and are only fitted on earlier models. all of those cars have had a factory recall on them and are being repaired and paid for by the pump manfacturer. the engines do not need a full rebuild, and it does not cost $24000 to repair. even if the car was out of warranty it would have been fixed at no cost because it is a product recall in writing, why your mate was not aware of this i dont know, he obviosly didnt get the letter or failed to act on it or hes got a dodgy dealer. i found all this out with one simple phone call, get your facts straight before lodging threads about someones product secondhand, they cant be that unpopular if you want to order a new disco now, you might get one by december, they are probably the only car manfacturer worldwide that has been at full production even through the gfc..they cant build enough of em, i think that says it all.

Well thanks for your opinion, I've known this fellow for 19 years through business and I do trust that he reported faithfully what he was told, and in the later case also, I would not repeat it I did not trust it. He was the greatest fan of this car you would find prior to all of this. The trigger for him telling me this latest event was that called him this morning and caught him at the dealer to get a loaner. The facts are that it is what he was told regardless of what you may suggest. He lives in Sydney, whether his dealer is dodgy or not I have no idea, I didn't ask which one it was. I dont know the year or model etc beyond going in it, its one of those black sport diesel ones with the 20" wheels. I doubt it would be more than a few years old. Its interesting that you confirm fuel pump failures, only serves to add weight to what he has said. If you trust a dealer to not try it on, I have a bridge for sale you may be interested in also.

I have never owned one of these but it doesn't prevent me listening to what owners have to say. I have personally seen discoveries broken down while off-roading and on most occasions lent a hand which typically involved donating some water as more often than not they have broken down from overheating on a hot day. Some owners I've spoken to report very expensive repairs from sleeves walking after their own experiences with overheating events on V8 petrol versions. Again I am happy to report this even though it is second hand, and yes I trust a broken down owner on the side of a track to give the good oil on his own car too.

I'm sorry if you don't take kindly to negative feedback on a car you obviously like a lot but everyone's mileage varies and getting feedback on such things from far and wide is what these forums are for. If your criteria for recommending this car is the length of the waiting list, and that that says all you need to hear, then I don't count that as a complete assessment of this cars suitability for towing.

-Andy

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by andyl

Well thanks for your opinion, I've known this fellow for 19 years through business and I do trust that he reported faithfully what he was told, and in the later case also, I would not repeat it I did not trust it. He was the greatest fan of this car you would find prior to all of this. The trigger for him telling me this latest event was that called him this morning and caught him at the dealer to get a loaner. The facts are that it is what he was told regardless of what you may suggest. He lives in Sydney, whether his dealer is dodgy or not I have no idea, I didn't ask which one it was. I dont know the year or model etc beyond going in it, its one of those black sport diesel ones with the 20" wheels. I doubt it would be more than a few years old. Its interesting that you confirm fuel pump failures, only serves to add weight to what he has said. If you trust a dealer to not try it on, I have a bridge for sale you may be interested in also.

I have never owned one of these but it doesn't prevent me listening to what owners have to say. I have personally seen discoveries broken down while off-roading and on most occasions lent a hand which typically involved donating some water as more often than not they have broken down from overheating on a hot day. Some owners I've spoken to report very expensive repairs from sleeves walking after their own experiences with overheating events on V8 petrol versions. Again I am happy to report this even though it is second hand, and yes I trust a broken down owner on the side of a track to give the good oil on his own car too.

I'm sorry if you don't take kindly to negative feedback on a car you obviously like a lot but everyone's mileage varies and getting feedback on such things from far and wide is what these forums are for. If your criteria for recommending this car is the length of the waiting list, and that that says all you need to hear, then I don't count that as a complete assessment of this cars suitability for towing.

-Andy

youre welcome to your opinion and im sure you trust your mate, but i was just pointing out that your original story was bull**** to set the record straight. secondly you do live in sydney its full of dodgy people. thirdly, i wasnt talking about older v8 petrol models, i wouldnt buy one of those either. and last, i live in nth qld where it gets a lot hotter than where you are and this place is 4wd city, the local 4wd clubs have got plenty of land rovers and if they are as bad as you say they wouldnt drive em. im a builder and used to towing different trailers on all manner of vehicles and have had my fair share of landcruises, their alright if you like massey fergusons, i dont care what you drive but youre giving your opinion on a car youve never driven, my opinion is its the best tow vehicle ive ever had bar none, so do yourself a favour go and hire or borrow a late model one hook up your cobra and go on a 2 to 3 thousand km trip like i do over country roads and ill await your opinion then.