Best Oz Kit Poll

[OZCOBRA]

Boxhead,

The light heartedness in the banter is their from start to finish in that Victor continues to add to it .... AC TURD says the guy has a sense of humour!!! so I'll poke the boy till it hurts...
Brutal honesty on a DRB's shape has always drawn the same response for the last 10+years and is nothing new and has never been personal and if it is taken that way they need to step back to REALITY!!....we all appreciate these cars and those whom we socialise and deal with while building or enjoying them....

[victor]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Boxhead,

The light heartedness in the banter is their from start to finish in that Victor continues to add to it .... AC TURD says the guy has a sense of humour!!! so I'll poke the boy till it hurts...
Brutal honesty on a DRB's shape has always drawn the same response for the last 10+years and is nothing new and has never been personal and if it is taken that way they need to step back to REALITY!!....we all appreciate these cars and those whom we socialise and deal with while building or enjoying them....

Brutal honesty ,oz,I bought my car after hearing stories regarding the toyota based kits,seems their the crap.DRB seemed the next best option .I just wanted a cobra that was at lest respectable, safe and affordable. Only after purchasing her i read and saw that broken back look ,wtf were they thinking.Then i find out i couldnt put a bb in it,again,wtf. I have done alot of cosmetic changes ,detailed the **** out of it and been driving her everywhere and really enjoy the attention it recieves.I also cut and polished her to a mirror finish hoping to blind anyone seeing or picking the obvious flaw so yer,love that, my car.

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by victor

Brutal honesty ,oz,I bought my car after hearing stories regarding the toyota based kits,seems their the crap.DRB seemed the next best option .I just wanted a cobra that was at lest respectable, safe and affordable. Only after purchasing her i read and saw that broken back look ,wtf were they thinking.Then i find out i couldnt put a bb in it,again,wtf. I have done alot of cosmetic changes ,detailed the **** out of it and been driving her everywhere and really enjoy the attention it recieves.I also cut and polished her to a mirror finish hoping to blind anyone seeing or picking the obvious flaw so yer,love that, my car.

Hey Victor,
That brutal Honesty is what a thread like this asked for and what you just divulged is exactly what the potential buyer needs to hear so he or she can ask relevant questions ....The reason I asked the question on build or buy is that it becomes quite evident when someone talks about their car as you were and it gives the newbie a Nice GLOSSY image of a car without knowing the Pro's and Con's.
I enjoy the sh!t stirring it's never personal and does eventually lead to constructive comments and info!!
I can appreciate a buyers passion for a great looking red Cobra that is dotted on,enjoy the ride and hope to punch on in person one day.....and one last smiley for AUSSIEMIKE.

Cheers OZ

[David Hodgson]

Originally Posted by victor

Brutal honesty ,oz,I bought my car after hearing stories regarding the toyota based kits,seems their the crap.DRB seemed the next best option.

I too have stayed out of this, mainly because it’s been done to death. But being an owner builder of a Crown chassied cobra I must defend her! Mine is not your typical crown build, I’ll get to details later.

I must agree, Crown chassied cobra’s have never had a good rep, and for very good reason. In fact I enquired about one in 1983, and promptly ran away as fast as I could. Before fabricated chassis were available, the choice was to find a proprietary chassis that dimensionally came close, and then work with it. There were some very dubious kits in the early days, and these are the ones still doing the rounds, passed on to a new unsuspecting enthusiast, in a state of perpetual incompleteness. They were very basic in design and pretty nasty. Not necessarily the chassis, but the quality of the body etc.

Now if you look at chassis alone, I don’t see much difference between the Crown rolling stock and the Torana. Both fronts are pressed metal cross members and control arms, and unless upgraded, both rears use light duty live rear axles with drum brakes, adequate for a cruiser. The let down of the Crown front end is the slow steering box. Frankly, I see a Crown/G-Force as a better option than a DRB. However, stay far away from attempting any other Crown kit.

My car is a G-Force (reputable builder) with Crown chassis and Jag rear end. I took this route back in 1990 as in ACT and some other states, at the time, using a proprietary chassis was considered, for ADR and rego purposes, a ‘re-body’. This allowed me to build to 1972 regulations, the main benefit being ‘live’ side pipes at 96dba, no argument and leaded fuel. Strip my car to the chassis and apart from the pressed metal front end, appears basically the same as the G-Force MKI, RMC, W.E, and RCM, all respected cars. To back it up, in it’s first outing, I placed fourth overall in the Go-whoa at ’97 WW Nats, have placed 3rd in class at for Wakefield Nats hill climb, and when I was a regular, consistently placed in the first 3rd of the field for class in sprints. The car runs a carburettored mild 302 with street tyres.

So it really does come down to what you as the owner want to achieve. Would I go this route again? – probably not given the quality of most kits today, and what you need to comply with.





The Ferrari pictured is actually a Datsun 260Z. Ian Denner of Classic Revival built these in late 90's

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by David Hodgson

I too have stayed out of this, mainly because it’s been done to death. But being an owner builder of a Crown chassied cobra I must defend her! Mine is not your typical crown build, I’ll get to details later.

I must agree, Crown chassied cobra’s have never had a good rep, and for very good reason. In fact I enquired about one in 1983, and promptly ran away as fast as I could. Before fabricated chassis were available, the choice was to find a proprietary chassis that dimensionally came close, and then work with it. There were some very dubious kits in the early days, and these are the ones still doing the rounds, passed on to a new unsuspecting enthusiast, in a state of perpetual incompleteness. They were very basic in design and pretty nasty. Not necessarily the chassis, but the quality of the body etc.

Now if you look at chassis alone, I don’t see much difference between the Crown rolling stock and the Torana. Both fronts are pressed metal cross members and control arms, and unless upgraded, both rears use light duty live rear axles with drum brakes, adequate for a cruiser. The let down of the Crown front end is the slow steering box. Frankly, I see a Crown/G-Force as a better option than a DRB. However, stay far away from attempting any other Crown kit.

My car is a G-Force (reputable builder) with Crown chassis and Jag rear end. I took this route back in 1990 as in ACT and some other states, at the time, using a proprietary chassis was considered, for ADR and rego purposes, a ‘re-body’. This allowed me to build to 1972 regulations, the main benefit being ‘live’ side pipes at 96dba, no argument and leaded fuel. Strip my car to the chassis and apart from the pressed metal front end, appears basically the same as the G-Force MKI, RMC, W.E, and RCM, all respected cars. To back it up, in it’s first outing, I placed fourth overall in the Go-whoa at ’97 WW Nats, have placed 3rd in class at for Wakefield Nats hill climb, and when I was a regular, consistently placed in the first 3rd of the field for class in sprints. The car runs a carburettored mild 302 with street tyres.

So it really does come down to what you as the owner want to achieve. Would I go this route again? – probably not given the quality of most kits today, and what you need to comply with.





The Ferrari pictured is actually a Datsun 260Z. Ian Denner of Classic Revival built these in late 90's

David, I think Iam still does the Ferrari 240Z, I wanted to get one for the Mrs's (would run LS1 with auto box) but she wanted a Charger.

[David Hodgson]

I'd go the Charger Dave, It would make a far better cruiser and have more creature comforts