ABS / Traction Control

[Doubledip]

You need to pull your head out. I said yes cause I think it would help others out seeing as there is a lot of discussion on shortening looms. Sounds like mike has something done and would be best to share with all. But once again it only enforces our belief that if we don't help or say something to your liking you start up with the criticism. But of course you know best.

[Zedn]

Measure, cut, strip ends, thread on heat shrink, twist, flux, solder, slide heat shrink over, heat, Your Done!

[Rob. Smith]

Originally Posted by Zedn

Measure, cut, strip ends, thread on heat shrink, twist, flux, solder, slide heat shrink over, heat, Your Done!

Easier still...get new pins that go inside the plugs...shorten the wires , crimp on the new pins and put them back in to the plug. The pins are available at good auto elec supply and you can buy crimpers and pin removal tools from Jaycar for not much $.

[Doubledip]

Originally Posted by Rob. Smith

Easier still...get new pins that go inside the plugs...shorten the wires , crimp on the new pins and put them back in to the plug. The pins are available at good auto elec supply and you can buy crimpers and pin removal tools from Jaycar for not much $.

Rob, none of those places would have what would be needed to shorten these harness with new pins etc.... only Jaycar would have the solder and heatshrink. The pins etc. are very specialised and 99.9% of autoelec's out there wouldnt have them.
I think the plugs/pins you are thinking/referring to are the Narva white plugs with the normal brass or silver crimp terminals as used in relay holders.. none of that is used in these harnesses. They are all the delphi style plugs which have very small terminal and most need a special crimping tool.. especially the ECU terminals as it is near on impossible to try and just fit the wire and terminals into the ECU plug with out them.

[Tenrocca]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

Rob, none of those places would have what would be needed to shorten these harness with new pins etc.... only Jaycar would have the solder and heatshrink. The pins etc. are very specialised and 99.9% of autoelec's out there wouldnt have them.

EFI Connection supplied me all the stuff when I did my conversion:

http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonn...spx?ItemId=314

Looks like they can even supply the extra ECU connector as a pigtail now- you just specify what pins you need wired up.

As for Gav - he flys off the handle all the time when it isnt justified. Hes a bloody lose cannon and should be banned from the forum.

Cheers

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

You need to pull your head out. I said yes cause I think it would help others out seeing as there is a lot of discussion on shortening looms. Sounds like mike has something done and would be best to share with all. But once again it only enforces our belief that if we don't help or say something to your liking you start up with the criticism. But of course you know best.

I can understand Gav's reply, An auto sparky (or someone working with an auto sparky) replying in the way you did, does come accross as fairly arrogant.

But I will give you the benefit of doubt and think you honestly ment your first reply the way you have explained above.

[Doubledip]

Originally Posted by boxhead

I can understand Gav's reply, An auto sparky (or someone working with an auto sparky) replying in the way you did, does come accross as fairly arrogant.

But I will give you the benefit of doubt and think you honestly ment your first reply the way you have explained above.

If my first reply was was being arrogant or taking the piss cause i am a sparky then that means that Aussie Mike's reply about it was being just as arrogant or a very cheap shot at me. Specially considering that he posted it straight after my post, but once again everyone has missed one of their own saying something about us and focused on the negative from the non cobra owners.

It was meant as a help for others as Mike made it sound like he had something from previous that may have had pictures... very easy to say strip this solder that but some of the soldering joints i have come across in the passed you would have thought "what the F%&K did this to the wire". They certainely would have been better of with a twist and tape.

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

If my first reply was was being arrogant or taking the piss cause i am a sparky then that means that Aussie Mike's reply about it was being just as arrogant or a very cheap shot at me. Specially considering that he posted it straight after my post, but once again everyone has missed one of their own saying something about us and focused on the negative from the non cobra owners.

It was meant as a help for others as Mike made it sound like he had something from previous that may have had pictures... very easy to say strip this solder that but some of the soldering joints i have come across in the passed you would have thought "what the F%&K did this to the wire". They certainely would have been better of with a twist and tape.

Please, I dont want to get into an argument (I know that may suprise some in here)
All I was trying to say that for someone in the game saying they would like to see how it is done by someone not in the game, comes across as being a smart ar$e.

Yes I know that Mike is in telecomunications and really does know his stuff, but working on car electrics is not how he puts food on the table.

I would just as happily see a tutorial from you on how it is done properly, but I understand that when you do car electrics as a job, the last thing you want to do is talk car electrics after hours.

Mikes offer to do a tutorial, I have no doubt is honest and genuine (that is just the type of good guy he is) and I reckon he will be out in the shed this weekend doing a wire mod and taking pics along the way. (that is if he is in Australia and not O/S working)

And I doubt Mikes reply was a cheap shot at you, He would have simply been offering to help.

[Doubledip]

I dont want to be in an argument either, but is it acceptable then for someone to post to some one in the game "would you like to know how it is done" ????


if i can take his comment to me as being genuine and helpful then why do i get percieved as being a smart arse when i make mine and say yes post (as it will help others)....

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

I dont want to be in an argument either, but is it acceptable then for someone to post to some one in the game "would you like to know how it is done" ????

I doubt the post was directed at you, more likely at the people who have already purchased the wiring harness that is too long.

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

if i can take his comment to me as being genuine and helpful then why do i get percieved as being a smart arse when i make mine and say yes post (as it will help others)....

I think you can thank your business partner for people having this perception of your business.

[Doubledip]

well if you read my LOOOOOONG post then is directly followed by what Mike said then i think you can see a little sarcasim there...

but i chose to ignore it and replied with yes as i think it would help people out there as they feel these looms are great (cough)..

and if i can thank jim for the perception of the business then we can thank GAV for the perception we recieve from cobra forum goers.. is that correct?

I was told by a forum goer only yesterday in a PM not to blanket everyone the same on here so should that not be returned? We may work together , doesnt mean we handle things exactly the same on a forum now does it.

I wouldnt use the pigtail idea unless you can get a decent length on the wires... less joins the better. And would only use that idea if starting with a complete engine loom for the other plugs... either that or buy the plugs/pins and crimpers from there then go for your life... They have all the plugs you will need for a conversion

[byroncobra]

I did all my own wiring but I had huge assistance from Rebel 1, Cob07 and Jim (Sideshow) on this Forum. It was a challenge and sense of achievement at the end. However, I was (only) doing a Ford small block with EFI and would not even attempt and LS motor or Ford Coyote, especially if I wanted to activate the traction control or ABS. Too complex for me![quote][quote]

Ditto Merv

One of the reasons for me to DIY was that living in a rural area there's not many auto sparkies and those that are here are too busy to consider the job.....one guy here refuses to come to the phone, it's like trying to talk to a medico, you gotta get through the door *****.

There was a few times when i thought, "what the hell have I started here" though.

A great challenge for me but worth the perseverence........now if there's a problem I've a good knowledge of where to start looking. As Mike pointed out there's some great resources on the net enabling you to get a handle on the basics, you've just gotta be prepared to sit down and study.......if all else fails ask someone here For all the *****ing that goes on between Jim and the forum members, he is (mostly) helpful!